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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:49 pm
Post subject: #1s 1995 - 2005
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During those years Colorado had 11 to Detroit's 5. Excuse me if I
missed anyone. Of the 11 only three played Parker (212), Skoula 383)
and Tanguay (450) played a significant number of games. Both were
drafted much higher (12 and 19) then any of Detroit's picks.
5 of those picks never played a game for Colorado and another only
three. Parker is the only one that remains with the team.
Of Detroit's five Fischer played 305 before heart problems sidelined
him, Kronwall - 115 and I assume the Grigoenko will be on this years
team. the other were Kuznersov (117) and Wallin (48) who suffered a
setback with a car accident right after being drafted.
IMO other than Tanguay Colorado'd #1 selections aren't all that great. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:54 pm
Post subject: Re: #1s 1995 - 2005 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:49:53 -0400, xpenenyx.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net wrote:
>During those years Colorado had 11 to Detroit's 5. Excuse me if I
>missed anyone. Of the 11 only three played Parker (212), Skoula 383)
>and Tanguay (450) played a significant number of games. Both were
>drafted much higher (12 and 19) then any of Detroit's picks.
>5 of those picks never played a game for Colorado and another only
>three. Parker is the only one that remains with the team.
>
>Of Detroit's five Fischer played 305 before heart problems sidelined
>him, Kronwall - 115 and I assume the Grigoenko will be on this years
>team. the other were Kuznersov (117) and Wallin (48) who suffered a
>setback with a car accident right after being drafted.
>IMO other than Tanguay Colorado'd #1 selections aren't all that great.
but there are MORE, so tommy wins. don'tcha get it? random numbers
coupled with 1 less Cup equates to a better team... somehow...
gotta admit, this is another top notch thread when it comes to
pointless drivel...
I guess I always chuckle when the wings faithful bother to respond to
pointless points...
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:00 am
Post subject: Re: #1s 1995 - 2005 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sep 30, 5:49 pm, xpene....TakeThisOut@earthlink.net wrote:
> During those years Colorado had 11 to Detroit's 5. Excuse me if I
> missed anyone. Of the 11 only three played Parker (212), Skoula 383)
> and Tanguay (450) played a significant number of games. Both were
> drafted much higher (12 and 19) then any of Detroit's picks.
> 5 of those picks never played a game for Colorado and another only
> three. Parker is the only one that remains with the team.
>
> Of Detroit's five Fischer played 305 before heart problems sidelined
> him, Kronwall - 115 and I assume the Grigoenko will be on this years
> team. the other were Kuznersov (117) and Wallin (48) who suffered a
> setback with a car accident right after being drafted.
> IMO other than Tanguay Colorado'd #1 selections aren't all that great.
Nedorost played more games than Wallin did and you forgot Regehr. >> Stay informed about: #1s 1995 - 2005 |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:15 am
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<xpenenyx RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> During those years Colorado had 11 to Detroit's 5. Excuse me if I
> missed anyone. Of the 11 only three played Parker (212), Skoula 383)
> and Tanguay (450) played a significant number of games. Both were
> drafted much higher (12 and 19) then any of Detroit's picks.
> 5 of those picks never played a game for Colorado and another only
> three. Parker is the only one that remains with the team.
>
> Of Detroit's five Fischer played 305 before heart problems sidelined
> him, Kronwall - 115 and I assume the Grigoenko will be on this years
> team. the other were Kuznersov (117) and Wallin (48) who suffered a
> setback with a car accident right after being drafted.
> IMO other than Tanguay Colorado'd #1 selections aren't all that great.
I think we have beat this horse to death - the wings have done better than
the avs. Anything more on this is just arguing for the sake of arguing
(and a fair degree of face saving). Now where is that hot dogs to wins
analysis we are all longing for??? >> Stay informed about: #1s 1995 - 2005 |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:22 pm
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:00:59 -0700, Freedom Elz
<mediadawg1.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Sep 30, 5:49 pm, xpene....RemoveThis@earthlink.net wrote:
>> During those years Colorado had 11 to Detroit's 5. Excuse me if I
>> missed anyone. Of the 11 only three played Parker (212), Skoula 383)
>> and Tanguay (450) played a significant number of games. Both were
>> drafted much higher (12 and 19) then any of Detroit's picks.
>> 5 of those picks never played a game for Colorado and another only
>> three. Parker is the only one that remains with the team.
>>
>> Of Detroit's five Fischer played 305 before heart problems sidelined
>> him, Kronwall - 115 and I assume the Grigoenko will be on this years
>> team. the other were Kuznersov (117) and Wallin (48) who suffered a
>> setback with a car accident right after being drafted.
>> IMO other than Tanguay Colorado'd #1 selections aren't all that great.
>
>Nedorost played more games than Wallin did and you forgot Regehr.
Regehr played zero games for Colorado. I always thought the object of
the draft was to get players that make that team better not some
other. Besides being drafted quite a bit earlier Nedorost only
played about 10 more games than Wallin. I wouldn't get excited over
either. I concede that Colorado might have done a bit better in the
draft 1995 - 2005 but nothing like Thomas tries to imply with his
numbers. OTOH that is to be expectant.
I heard that Thomas likes his men short, dark, fat and has a picture
of Lacroix on the ceiling over his bed. >> Stay informed about: #1s 1995 - 2005 |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:03 pm
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On Oct 1, 9:15 am, "Hockeyguy" <heymor....DeleteThis@whatever.net> wrote:
> <xpene....DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> news:pd50g35utj0nph871t5hn5se2dn6cpqr89@4ax.com...
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> > During those years Colorado had 11 to Detroit's 5. Excuse me if I
> > missed anyone. Of the 11 only three played Parker (212), Skoula 383)
> > and Tanguay (450) played a significant number of games. Both were
> > drafted much higher (12 and 19) then any of Detroit's picks.
> > 5 of those picks never played a game for Colorado and another only
> > three. Parker is the only one that remains with the team.
>
> > Of Detroit's five Fischer played 305 before heart problems sidelined
> > him, Kronwall - 115 and I assume the Grigoenko will be on this years
> > team. the other were Kuznersov (117) and Wallin (48) who suffered a
> > setback with a car accident right after being drafted.
> > IMO other than Tanguay Colorado'd #1 selections aren't all that great.
>
> I think we have beat this horse to death - the wings have done better than
> the avs. Anything more on this is just arguing for the sake of arguing
> (and a fair degree of face saving). Now where is that hot dogs to wins
> analysis we are all longing for???
The last time anyone saw the hotdog you were using it as a buttplug. >> Stay informed about: #1s 1995 - 2005 |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:11 pm
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:22:34 -0400, xpenenyx.DeleteThis@earthlink.net wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:00:59 -0700, Freedom Elz
><mediadawg1.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>On Sep 30, 5:49 pm, xpene....DeleteThis@earthlink.net wrote:
>>> During those years Colorado had 11 to Detroit's 5. Excuse me if I
>>> missed anyone. Of the 11 only three played Parker (212), Skoula 383)
>>> and Tanguay (450) played a significant number of games. Both were
>>> drafted much higher (12 and 19) then any of Detroit's picks.
>>> 5 of those picks never played a game for Colorado and another only
>>> three. Parker is the only one that remains with the team.
>>>
>>> Of Detroit's five Fischer played 305 before heart problems sidelined
>>> him, Kronwall - 115 and I assume the Grigoenko will be on this years
>>> team. the other were Kuznersov (117) and Wallin (48) who suffered a
>>> setback with a car accident right after being drafted.
>>> IMO other than Tanguay Colorado'd #1 selections aren't all that great.
>>
>>Nedorost played more games than Wallin did and you forgot Regehr.
>
>Regehr played zero games for Colorado. I always thought the object of
>the draft was to get players that make that team better not some
>other.
Doug, with all due respect, that's the stupidest argument about draft
picks I've ever heard. Well, since I've been in here for over 10
years, it's not *the* stupidest. But, it's still pretty dumb. This
is like your +/- argument last year, when you said that Detroit's
rookies are playing better than Colorado's.
So, a draft pick is only a good pick if that pick stays with the team
that drafted it? So, Dany Heatley wasn't a good draft pick? Ed
Jovanovski? Peter Forsberg? Chris Drury? Joe Thornton? Roberto
Luongo? Marian Hossa?
Wayne Gretzky?
Chris >> Stay informed about: #1s 1995 - 2005 |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:55 am
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On Oct 1, 6:11 pm, Chris <no... RemoveThis @goaway.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:22:34 -0400, xpene... RemoveThis @earthlink.net wrote:
> >On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:00:59 -0700, Freedom Elz
> ><mediada... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >>On Sep 30, 5:49 pm, xpene... RemoveThis @earthlink.net wrote:
> >>> During those years Colorado had 11 to Detroit's 5. Excuse me if I
> >>> missed anyone. Of the 11 only three played Parker (212), Skoula 383)
> >>> and Tanguay (450) played a significant number of games. Both were
> >>> drafted much higher (12 and 19) then any of Detroit's picks.
> >>> 5 of those picks never played a game for Colorado and another only
> >>> three. Parker is the only one that remains with the team.
>
> >>> Of Detroit's five Fischer played 305 before heart problems sidelined
> >>> him, Kronwall - 115 and I assume the Grigoenko will be on this years
> >>> team. the other were Kuznersov (117) and Wallin (48) who suffered a
> >>> setback with a car accident right after being drafted.
> >>> IMO other than Tanguay Colorado'd #1 selections aren't all that great.
>
> >>Nedorost played more games than Wallin did and you forgot Regehr.
>
> >Regehr played zero games for Colorado. I always thought the object of
> >the draft was to get players that make that team better not some
> >other.
>
> Doug, with all due respect, that's the stupidest argument about draft
> picks I've ever heard. Well, since I've been in here for over 10
> years, it's not *the* stupidest. But, it's still pretty dumb. This
> is like your +/- argument last year, when you said that Detroit's
> rookies are playing better than Colorado's.
>
> So, a draft pick is only a good pick if that pick stays with the team
> that drafted it? So, Dany Heatley wasn't a good draft pick? Ed
> Jovanovski? Peter Forsberg? Chris Drury? Joe Thornton? Roberto
> Luongo? Marian Hossa?
>
> Wayne Gretzky?
I agree. He drafted more NHlers than Holland, whether or not he dealt
them later isn't
the argument here, its the evaluation of talent. And PL was better
than Holland. >> Stay informed about: #1s 1995 - 2005 |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:31 pm
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 05:55:46 -0700, Freedom Elz
<mediadawg1.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >Regehr played zero games for Colorado. I always thought the object of
>> >the draft was to get players that make that team better not some
>> >other.
>>
>> Doug, with all due respect, that's the stupidest argument about draft
>> picks I've ever heard. Well, since I've been in here for over 10
>> years, it's not *the* stupidest. But, it's still pretty dumb. This
>> is like your +/- argument last year, when you said that Detroit's
>> rookies are playing better than Colorado's.
>>
>> So, a draft pick is only a good pick if that pick stays with the team
>> that drafted it? So, Dany Heatley wasn't a good draft pick? Ed
>> Jovanovski? Peter Forsberg? Chris Drury? Joe Thornton? Roberto
>> Luongo? Marian Hossa?
>>
>> Wayne Gretzky?
>
>I agree. He drafted more NHlers than Holland, whether or not he dealt
>them later isn't
>the argument here, its the evaluation of talent. And PL was better
>than Holland.
I think the point is, if you deal a kid for an alcoholic midget on the
downside of his career, how much did you really value the kid in the
first place? >> Stay informed about: #1s 1995 - 2005 |
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