Artoo blows a circuit

> You admit that you know little about the situation, haven't read much,
> don't care to read much, but feel the need to post.

Unless I'm in the locker room and GM/Coach meetings, I don't know the entire
story anything, only speculation from the papers. And I post because I can.

> Really. Close minded because I am interested in facts about the situation
> rather than your perception about what may have happened with no facts to
> back them up? Sportsmanship? There is no sportsmanship on usenet.

Dude, I'm not some Panther fan or Flyer fan or even a Lightning fan that
started 2 years ago. If I'm wrong about something, just say it, that's why
I'm here, if someone knows more about something I do, I'll listen, unless he
proves to me he takes advantage of being some faceless goon on a computer
somewhere to take his frustrations out on people who really couldn't care
less that he resorts to that.

> When Feaster says he feels that R2 has spit in his face, there's an
> *almost* father-son relationship between the two. Artyukhin was really
> Feasters "first" prospect before Feaster became GM and ran his own drafts.

I'm my mind, any player that gets picked by a professional team and awarded
that kind of money should respect it and understand it's a priveledge, not a
right. It looks to me again, that R2 saw the situation and acted on it,
which *I believe* is what he wanted in the first place except get the big
money in the end. I applaude Feaster for cutting his loss and moving
forward, we don't need to be seeing a player like that on this team.


--
Semper Fi,
J

James & Tara Adams busily composed on 8/10/2006 :

> Why did he come to the NHL in the first place? Why do all the world's
> players come to the NHL? It's the money. These players LOVE their countries
> so much and yet they come over here to try to hit the jackpot and, like in
> "R2"'s case, he complained and went home. He did make a demand, an alimatum
> in fact, if he didn't get enough he would go home to Russia, and that's
> exactly what he did. His actions are my evidence.

You're still missing the point. It is your contention that on the day
R2 was drafted by the Lightning, he was planning to make unreasonable
demands upon the expiration of his contract. I want to know how you
know that was the case *at the time he was drafted.* Yes, he made
unreasonable demands last week -- I'm disputing your contention that it
was his original plan to do so from the time he left Russia prior to
being drafted by any NHL team.

>> What on earth are you talking about? You made a statement in a public
>> forum and I simply asked if you were stating a fact or an opinion. I see
>> you haven't changed much.
>
> Because there's a lot of close mindness around here. It is a public forum
> and sometimes I see things differently than what appears to everyone here
> with the exact same mentality.

Not sure what that has to do with snowbirds, attendance and the future
of the franchise... Be that as it may, as you pointed out, this is a
public forum. If you post something, you'd better darn well be
prepared to hear opposing viewpoints, *especially* in the unmoderated
Usenet world. This isn't a soapbox for lectures where no one is
allowed to reply, it's open discussion & we're all going to have our
opinions disputed at one point or another. It's the old "if you can't
take the heat, get out of the kitchen" mantra.

> Also, It was fact and my proof is exactly
> what he did.

Sorry, it's your *opinion* and is not factual. You have no evidence
whatsoever that when R2 entered the draft that he was planning to make
unreasonable demands when negotiating a future contract. R2 is the
only person who knows what his intentions were on draft day, the rest
of us are using conjecture.

>> Not at all. It's saying the team not only wasn't cheap with R2, it was far
>> more generous than it needed to be.
>
> Yep and that was his indication he was viewed as something worth spending
> some money on. And it still wasn't good enough for his spoiled ass. Plain
> and simple.

That bonus was in the past. Professional athletes negotiate contract
for their *future* income. You're not going to find one anywhere who
is going to agree to take a much lower contract upon renewal because
years ago he got a nice bonus.

I happen to agree his recent demands were unreasonable and that he had
not earned the raise he was offered, much less the one he demanded.
However, I don't buy the conspiracy theory that as a teenager in Russia
he sat down and planned out the entire scenario.