Denis onboard

jimmyjay_gohabs.TakeThisOut@yahoo.ca wrote:
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> What position does he play?
>
>
>
> Just kidding. Aebischer would've been a better call. But whatever.
>

"We just would have wanted St. Louis for him or maybe Richards. Fair
deal if I do say so..." :-p
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John F wrote:
> jimmyjay_gohabs.TakeThisOut@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >
> > What position does he play?
> >
> >
> >
> > Just kidding. Aebischer would've been a better call. But whatever.
> >
>
> "We just would have wanted St. Louis for him or maybe Richards. Fair
> deal if I do say so..." :-p




If you could get Aebischer and lose that ridiculous St. Louis contract,
I imagine earth would move due to danding feet on that peninsula.


but that's over now. I have no clue what Bob Gainey is doing.

With my fascination with the TBay Lightning, perhaps I'm one step away
from joining you in support for this team.

Ugh. "Shudder". No thanks.

What on earth are they doing with those 3 expensive players. Mind
Blowing.
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jimmyjay_gohabs.RemoveThis@yahoo.ca busily composed on 7/6/2006 :
> John F wrote:
>> jimmyjay_gohabs.RemoveThis@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>
>>> What position does he play?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just kidding. Aebischer would've been a better call. But whatever.
>>>
>>
>> "We just would have wanted St. Louis for him or maybe Richards. Fair
>> deal if I do say so..." :-p
>
>
>
>
> If you could get Aebischer and lose that ridiculous St. Louis contract,
> I imagine earth would move due to danding feet on that peninsula.
>
>
> but that's over now. I have no clue what Bob Gainey is doing.
>
> With my fascination with the TBay Lightning, perhaps I'm one step away
> from joining you in support for this team.
>
> Ugh. "Shudder". No thanks.
>
> What on earth are they doing with those 3 expensive players. Mind
> Blowing.

Are you asking the same question in Toronto's newsgroup?
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> > What on earth are they doing with those 3 expensive players. Mind
> > Blowing.
>
> Are you asking the same question in Toronto's newsgroup?



I think I did somewhere actually.


;)
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jimmyjay_gohabs.RemoveThis@yahoo.ca busily composed on 7/13/2006 :
>>> What on earth are they doing with those 3 expensive players. Mind
>>> Blowing.
>>
>> Are you asking the same question in Toronto's newsgroup?
>
>
>
> I think I did somewhere actually.
>
>
> ;)

You *think* you did? Not good enough.
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"Sharon L." <boltsfan2029 RemoveThis @gmailDOT.comDOT> wrote in message
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> jimmyjay_gohabs RemoveThis @yahoo.ca busily composed on 7/13/2006 :
>>>> What on earth are they doing with those 3 expensive players. Mind
>>>> Blowing.
>>>
>>> Are you asking the same question in Toronto's newsgroup?
>>
>>
>>
>> I think I did somewhere actually.
>>
>>
>> ;)
>
> You *think* you did? Not good enough.
>

That's as good as it gets with jj. He probably thinks the Lightning should
have traded Lecavalier to the Habs for Zednik. $3.5million for Samsonov is
beyond ridiculous.
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Dude you have got to give me more credit than Vinnie for Zednik
straight up.

How about the Leafs - Sundin, McCabe, Kabby, Kubby, Gill - approx 25
mill?

ouch.



It's not that bad in Tampa, but you guys are in tough.
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Here's a question. When TB won the cup in 04, they had a "win or don't play
here" mentality. Now with Denis, are the Lightning honestly thinking about
the Stanley Cup? Or just keeping their heads over the water? With Khabi,
they had a goalie that came thru with super-human expectations and at his
salary was well worth every cent. With Denis, yeah he was cheap and he's
"decent" but jesus, throwing him up there to be the #1 already?

I'd definantly have him as my backup, without a doubt. But being the next
Khabibulin and being counted on, I'm waiting to hear the next season's
slogan because a championship isn't much more than a dream with team today.

Not to sound harsh but having a "decent to good" team isn't the type of
mentality to take them deep again and I don't think there's much father-type
leadership in lockers to help Torts out.

--
Semper Fi,
J

"John F" <not.RemoveThis@thistime.com> wrote in message
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>3 years, 8.6 million dollars.
>
> Under 3 million dollars a year average...
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"James & Tara Adams" <ajbdtc826.DeleteThis@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Here's a question. When TB won the cup in 04, they had a "win or don't
> play here" mentality. Now with Denis, are the Lightning honestly thinking
> about the Stanley Cup? Or just keeping their heads over the water? With
> Khabi, they had a goalie that came thru with super-human expectations and
> at his salary was well worth every cent. With Denis, yeah he was cheap
> and he's "decent" but jesus, throwing him up there to be the #1 already?

What do you mean "already"? He has been the #1 in Columbus behind a piss
poor defense for the past several years, seen more rubber than Jeff Gannon
at the GOP national convention, yet posted respectable numbers. He is
definitely above average at this stage of his career.

>
> I'd definantly have him as my backup, without a doubt.

He is not a backup. He was traded to make room for a younger, cheaper guy
that Columbus believes will eventually be better. And they got a top 6 guy
in Modin, a desperate need for their Dungy-like (buc years) offense.

>But being the next Khabibulin and being counted on, I'm waiting to hear the
>next season's slogan because a championship isn't much more than a dream
>with team today.

He is not the next Khabibulin, who, if he doesn't rebound from last years
putrid performance, will be the next John Grahame.

>
> Not to sound harsh but having a "decent to good" team isn't the type of
> mentality to take them deep again and I don't think there's much
> father-type leadership in lockers to help Torts out.
>

Father-type leadership? Are you freakin' kidding me?

> --
> Semper Fi,
> J
>

Ahhhh...jadams. 'Nuff said.

> "John F" <not.DeleteThis@thistime.com> wrote in message
> news:u4xqg.47543$7G2.37754@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>3 years, 8.6 million dollars.
>>
>> Under 3 million dollars a year average...
>
>
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> Aebischer? You got to be kidding. The Avs wouldn't have dumped him if he
> had potential to be more than a #2. They didn't call him "Swiss Cheese"
> and "Swiss Miss" for no reason. Biron is on a par with Denis, but more
> expensive.

So what you're saying is that David Aebischer is NOT a #1 goalie? And that
Marc Denis is definantly? Okay. I don't have to bring up stats, or who did
he shadow during his first few years (God forbid he learned a thing or two),
or maybe Colorado's situation in goal. And who is "they" cus I never heard
a bad thing about him, in fact hopeful rumors about him coming to Tampa.

> Have you ever seen Denis play?

Yeah. And I'll say it again, he's DECENT. I feel like the old days when I
was slandered for liking Cloutier and boy, he got lost, didn't he? I hope I
eat my words, I really do, but he wasn't the netminder I had in mind,
ESPECIALLY for Modin! My GOD. Do u really think he's worth more than
Modin?

> There is no captain at this juncture.

Richards isn't the captain anymore? hmmmm, maybe someone else saw it that
way I did. I think Richards IS the best on the team, but he's no Andreychuk
or Stevens.

> I'd forgotten the "many, many goals" theory of hockey. That was good.
>
> A team doesn't need "many, many goals", just more than the opponent.
> Edmonton was in the Finals. Ottawa, a big proponent of "many, many goals"
> was kicked to the curb as usual. And the Lightning won on team defense,
> goaltending, and timely scoring in 03-04, NOT many, many goals.

Jeez, someone should tell Carolina that offsense didn't win them THAT
championship then! Or the Lightning in 04 when they scored to the top 3 in
the league. And if it weren't for ahaving a Khabibulin in goal, do u think
they would have won, seriously? we ALL watched that game. You think Denis
could've rivaled that? C'mon dude...

> If you find the attitude close minded here, stay away form the Sunsports
> message board. You will be sent to time out without a cookie.
> Tampabaylightning.com has boards that may be of more interest to you.
> They discuss things like "if Marty was a car, what kind would he be".

I glance at them but nothing special. Sunsports isn't that bad, just too
much traffic. I open my email and here's this one. it's easy.

> Is this true J?

I don't know "flycoon", you tell me. How you've been for the past 5 years?
I see you're still exactly the way I left you, like a piece of furniture.
Real intelligent.

--
Semper Fi,
J
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"James & Tara Adams" <ajbdtc826.DeleteThis@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>> Aebischer? You got to be kidding. The Avs wouldn't have dumped him if
>> he had potential to be more than a #2. They didn't call him "Swiss
>> Cheese" and "Swiss Miss" for no reason. Biron is on a par with Denis,
>> but more expensive.
>
> So what you're saying is that David Aebischer is NOT a #1 goalie? And
> that Marc Denis is definantly? Okay. I don't have to bring up stats, or
> who did he shadow during his first few years (God forbid he learned a
> thing or two), or maybe Colorado's situation in goal. And who is "they"
> cus I never heard a bad thing about him, in fact hopeful rumors about him
> coming to Tampa.
>

Aebisher was traded for Jose Theodore who was being ran out of MTL and was
injured at the time of the trade. Aebisher settled into the #2 slot in MTL
behind the immortal C Huet, just as he had in Colorado behind the stupendous
Peter Budaj.

The only hopeful rumors about Aebisher coming here I saw were from MTL fans
wanting him gone.

>> Have you ever seen Denis play?
>
> Yeah. And I'll say it again, he's DECENT. I feel like the old days when
> I was slandered for liking Cloutier and boy, he got lost, didn't he? I
> hope I eat my words, I really do, but he wasn't the netminder I had in
> mind, ESPECIALLY for Modin! My GOD. Do u really think he's worth more
> than Modin?
>

You must trade a quality player with a salary approximately equivalent to
make a trade happen. Did you think Alexeev would be acceptable?


>> There is no captain at this juncture.
>
> Richards isn't the captain anymore? hmmmm, maybe someone else saw it that
> way I did. I think Richards IS the best on the team, but he's no
> Andreychuk or Stevens.

Richards never was the captain. He has never worn the A either. There is
speculation that he will be named captain before the season starts.

>
>> I'd forgotten the "many, many goals" theory of hockey. That was good.
>>
>> A team doesn't need "many, many goals", just more than the opponent.
>> Edmonton was in the Finals. Ottawa, a big proponent of "many, many
>> goals" was kicked to the curb as usual. And the Lightning won on team
>> defense, goaltending, and timely scoring in 03-04, NOT many, many goals.
>
> Jeez, someone should tell Carolina that offsense didn't win them THAT
> championship then!

How did Edmonton make the finals. And Calgary against the Lightning? Did
the Lightning dominate with a highpowered offense in the playoffs or was it
team defense and goaltending? Carolina played pretty damn well on defense
too and got unexpectedly good goaltending.

Or the Lightning in 04 when they scored to the top 3 in
> the league. And if it weren't for ahaving a Khabibulin in goal, do u
> think they would have won, seriously?

Khabibulin should have goten the Conn Smyth.

we ALL watched that game. You think Denis
> could've rivaled that? C'mon dude...

Who knows? Anyone before the season predict that Cam Ward would be the
starting goaltender for a Cup winning Canes team?

>
>> If you find the attitude close minded here, stay away form the Sunsports
>> message board. You will be sent to time out without a cookie.
>> Tampabaylightning.com has boards that may be of more interest to you.
>> They discuss things like "if Marty was a car, what kind would he be".
>
> I glance at them but nothing special. Sunsports isn't that bad, just too
> much traffic. I open my email and here's this one. it's easy.
>
>> Is this true J?
>
> I don't know "flycoon", you tell me. How you've been for the past 5
> years?

Still vertical...

> I see you're still exactly the way I left you, like a piece of furniture.
> Real intelligent.

Considering the source, I'll accept the compliment.


>
> --
> Semper Fi,
> J
>
>
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>
>> I see you're still exactly the way I left you, like a piece of furniture.
>> Real intelligent.
>
> Considering the source, I'll accept the compliment.
>

Oh Christ, JBAdams tries to smackdown Flycoon and gets nailed.

It's like he never left! Same old song and dance...

Many MANY goals! Right Sharon? ;)
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> Aebisher was traded for Jose Theodore who was being ran out of MTL and was
> injured at the time of the trade. Aebisher settled into the #2 slot in
> MTL behind the immortal C Huet, just as he had in Colorado behind the
> stupendous Peter Budaj.

I'm not too sure I'd wanna agree with you that Aebischer was the backup in
Colorado. Well wait and see who gets it by de facto as I'd say they're at
the same level.

> You must trade a quality player with a salary approximately equivalent to
> make a trade happen. Did you think Alexeev would be acceptable?

We did have a draft pick, a few prospects, free agency, etc. I would've
liked to have gone that route seeing guys like Hedberg picked up.

> Richards never was the captain. He has never worn the A either. There
> is speculation that he will be named captain before the season starts.

That's what all these news articles on the net are saying about him.
captain this and that. Who was the Captain then? But I wouldn't want him as
the Captain, I don't think he has the grit I would expect. If he had
Vinny's balls (and I don't like to compliment LeCav very much) yeah I'd be
all about it but he doesn't.

> How did Edmonton make the finals. And Calgary against the Lightning? Did
> the Lightning dominate with a highpowered offense in the playoffs or was
> it team defense and goaltending? Carolina played pretty damn well on
> defense too and got unexpectedly good goaltending.

We can back into a pissing match on this one. Who actually WON the Cups?
And why would these winning teams need defense is offense wasn't a factor?
It's the fundamentals of the game, score more goals that other team, you
win, not saves against or blocked shots. I can win against a team with just
10 shots all games, as long as my goalie stops all but 9 and all 10 of mine
go in. it's exagerated but just making my point more clear.

> Khabibulin should have goten the Conn Smyth.

I didn't think any clear cut member of the team deserved that award, it was
a team effort all around, noone cared who scored as long as they did. Khabi
definantly should've been considered, he might've been, as I've never seen a
Lightning goalie work so well with the guys in front. Always seemed to know
where to kick those pucks off to. That's a talent you don't see much.

> Who knows? Anyone before the season predict that Cam Ward would be the
> starting goaltender for a Cup winning Canes team?

Well that's why I'm hoping I eat my words about Denis. I want to see him be
that rookie-Patrick Lalime. But I wouldn't have put my money on him but I
guess I have to now.

--
Semper Fi,
J
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