Division lead on xmas break !

earl wrote:
> Thomas wrote:
>> earl wrote:
>>> Thomas wrote:
>>>> earl wrote:
>>>>> Calgary has a better winning pct making them the better bet, leaving
>>>>> Colorodo in a 3 way tie for second which is also a 3 way tie for
>>>>> fourth.
>>>> Nope. Colorado is in 1st place. Calgary is in 4th.
>>>>
>>>> -Thomas
>>> Nope, Calgary has a .5606 winning pct. Colorado, .5429
>>> Note that the season does not end , and will never end, with Calgary
>>> playing 2 games fewer than Colorado.
>> It doesn't matter. The NHL standings are calculated based on points, not
>> winning percentage. Right now, Colorado has more points, so they lead
>> the division. Calgary is in 4th place. This isn't a matter of opinion,
>> it's simply fact. Period.
>>
>> -Thomas
>
> Of course I can explain it to you, however it would require me to start
> teaching you at about the grade 2 math level.

I fully understand your argument. You're just wrong though.

The NBA is calculated based on win percentage, and if this were
calculated that way, then Calgary would lead the division. It's not and
they don't. Colorado leads. Calgary has a better win percentage, and if
they continue on the same pace, then they *will* win lead the division.
But lots of things can happen to change that, while nothing at all can
change the fact that Colorado, today, leads the division. Period.

> It's much more
> entertaining letting others in this NG school you,

The next time I am schooled in this or any other newsgroup will be the
first time it has ever happened.

-Thomas
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:48:02 -0500, Thomas <wharry RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>The next time I am schooled in this or any other newsgroup will be the
>first time it has ever happened.

Which tells us your attitude, not your education.
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"earl" <earl_the_habs_fan RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1167275773.595679.175930@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...

> The NHL website shows a standing at a point in time, and yes in the
> rules it uses for display purposes, it places Colorado in a share of
> the lead, but the season doesn't end at game 35... and in this case it
> is ever so slightly misleading.

No argument here, but it doesn't change the fact that they were
statistically in first place at the break.
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earl wrote:
>
> Ok, fine, I'm quite aware of the NHL.com standings methods, I'm a
> standings wonk.

Obviously not.

-Thomas
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Thomas wrote:
> earl wrote:
> >
> > Ok, fine, I'm quite aware of the NHL.com standings methods, I'm a
> > standings wonk.
>
> Obviously not.
>
> -Thomas


Hey Uncle Thomas, haven't read a "Gainey is an idiot" story here in a
while.
Can you tell us one. And how's that goalie trade working for your
last place Avs.
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Thomas wrote:
> earl wrote:
> The Avs are two points out of first place in the toughest division in
> the NHL (by far) as I write this. The trade has been just fine.
>

Wrong again Thomas. Northeast is the best (by far) with each team on
average projecting out to 100 points. Northwest is on pace for an
average of 86 points, making it the 5th best - only the Atlantic is
worse.

So, according to NHL.com the Avs are in last place in the 2nd worst
division. Is that what you meant to say?

> Goaltending isn't the reason the Avs have a .500 record. Coaching is.
>
> -Thomas

Suddenly Joel Quenneville doesn't know what he's doing.
There's a saying in hockey - show me a good coach and I'll show you a
good goaltender.

When the Avs find one, they'll be good.
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earl wrote:
> Thomas wrote:
>> earl wrote:
>>> Ok, fine, I'm quite aware of the NHL.com standings methods, I'm a
>>> standings wonk.
>> Obviously not.
>>
>> -Thomas
>
>
> Hey Uncle Thomas, haven't read a "Gainey is an idiot" story here in a
> while.
> Can you tell us one.

Sure.

Gainey is a complete imbecile for signing Aebischer after making the
trade to clear the cap room.

> And how's that goalie trade working for your
> last place Avs.

The Avs are two points out of first place in the toughest division in
the NHL (by far) as I write this. The trade has been just fine.

Goaltending isn't the reason the Avs have a .500 record. Coaching is.

-Thomas
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Thomas wrote:
> earl wrote:
>
>> Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> earl wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, fine, I'm quite aware of the NHL.com standings methods, I'm a
>>>> standings wonk.
>>>
>>> Obviously not.
>>>
>>> -Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Uncle Thomas, haven't read a "Gainey is an idiot" story here in a
>> while.
>> Can you tell us one.
>
>
> Sure.
>
> Gainey is a complete imbecile for signing Aebischer after making the
> trade to clear the cap room.
>
>> And how's that goalie trade working for your
>> last place Avs.
>
>
> The Avs are two points out of first place in the toughest division in
> the NHL (by far) as I write this. The trade has been just fine.
>
> Goaltending isn't the reason the Avs have a .500 record. Coaching is.
>
> -Thomas

They are by far the most evenly matched and/or inconsistent division, to
claim they are the toughest (by far) is just absurd. Only Calgary has a
winning record against the PAC, and only 3 can show a winning record
against the lowly CEN.

Jack
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 04:45:02 -0500, Thomas <wharry DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>> Which would you rather have - more points, or a better percentage?
>
>At the end of the season? More points.

At the end of the season they match.

But it's not the end of the season.
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 04:45:02 -0500, Thomas <wharry DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Which would you rather have - more points, or a better percentage?
>> At the end of the season? More points.
>
> At the end of the season they match.
>
> But it's not the end of the season.

And your point is...???

-Thomas
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earl wrote:
> Thomas wrote:
>> earl wrote:
>> The Avs are two points out of first place in the toughest division in
>> the NHL (by far) as I write this. The trade has been just fine.
>>
>
> Wrong again Thomas. Northeast is the best (by far) with each team on
> average projecting out to 100 points. Northwest is on pace for an
> average of 86 points, making it the 5th best - only the Atlantic is
> worse.
>
> So, according to NHL.com the Avs are in last place in the 2nd worst
> division. Is that what you meant to say?

Nope. I meant what I said, and I was 100% correct.

>
>> Goaltending isn't the reason the Avs have a .500 record. Coaching is.
>>
>> -Thomas
>
> Suddenly Joel Quenneville doesn't know what he's doing.

What's sudden about it?

> There's a saying in hockey - show me a good coach and I'll show you a
> good goaltender.
>
> When the Avs find one, they'll be good.

They need both. But a good coach would do, while a good goaltender would
be a waste.

-Thomas
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Thomas wrote:
> earl wrote:
>
>> Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> earl wrote:
>>> The Avs are two points out of first place in the toughest division in
>>> the NHL (by far) as I write this. The trade has been just fine.
>>>
>>
>> Wrong again Thomas. Northeast is the best (by far) with each team on
>> average projecting out to 100 points. Northwest is on pace for an
>> average of 86 points, making it the 5th best - only the Atlantic is
>> worse.
>>
>> So, according to NHL.com the Avs are in last place in the 2nd worst
>> division. Is that what you meant to say?
>
>
> Nope. I meant what I said, and I was 100% correct.

Of course you were. You're a legend in your own mind. To everybody else
you're just a clown.

Jack
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:41:33 -0500, Thomas <wharry.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Which would you rather have - more points, or a better percentage?
>>> At the end of the season? More points.
>>
>> At the end of the season they match.
>>
>> But it's not the end of the season.
>
>And your point is...???

That I didn't ask which you would rather have at the end of the
season.
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