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Natiel

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:05 am
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Setting the expectations for this season as low as possible. No playoffs in
sight....blah blah blah. Doug old boy....Wild fans are smarter than that.
Just call it like it is. Your owner is too damn cheap to spend money to get
talent so us fans can enjoy a playoff run. You'd rather line your pockets
by putting a mediocre product on the ice knowing Minnesota fans will still
come to games because we love hockey. We Minnesotans are not that stupid.
Attendance will wane and we will force you to upgrade the talent. I think
the current owners are just above Norm Green on the greedy scale.

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The Chief Instigator

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:05 am
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"Natiel" <Nate DeleteThis @noone.com> writes:

>Setting the expectations for this season as low as possible. No playoffs in
>sight....blah blah blah. Doug old boy....Wild fans are smarter than that.
>Just call it like it is. Your owner is too damn cheap to spend money to get
>talent so us fans can enjoy a playoff run. You'd rather line your pockets
>by putting a mediocre product on the ice knowing Minnesota fans will still
>come to games because we love hockey. We Minnesotans are not that stupid.
>Attendance will wane and we will force you to upgrade the talent. I think
>the current owners are just above Norm Green on the greedy scale.

Looks like Doug & Co. are building a foundation for the next couple of seasons
- and if MS&E are so greedy, it's curious that they aren't when it comes to
their AHL team...

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:29 pm
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The Chief Instigator wrote:
> "Natiel" <Nate.DeleteThis@noone.com> writes:
>
>
>>Setting the expectations for this season as low as possible. No playoffs in
>>sight....blah blah blah. Doug old boy....Wild fans are smarter than that.
>>Just call it like it is. Your owner is too damn cheap to spend money to get
>>talent so us fans can enjoy a playoff run. You'd rather line your pockets
>>by putting a mediocre product on the ice knowing Minnesota fans will still
>>come to games because we love hockey. We Minnesotans are not that stupid.
>>Attendance will wane and we will force you to upgrade the talent. I think
>>the current owners are just above Norm Green on the greedy scale.
>
>
> Looks like Doug & Co. are building a foundation for the next couple of seasons
> - and if MS&E are so greedy, it's curious that they aren't when it comes to
> their AHL team...
>
Shouldn't they have been doing that during the first couple of years
when the team started out. Why did we make the playoffs a few years ago
and then suddenly we are not a playoff team? Did we regress? Doug & Co
are cheap. No other way to put it. If they were concerned about
winning, they would upgrade talent. This is just a nice excuse Doug
uses to support his frugal ways.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:37 pm
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Golfox <golfisfun.DeleteThis@golfdom.com> writes:

>The Chief Instigator wrote:
>> "Natiel" <Nate.DeleteThis@noone.com> writes:

>>>Setting the expectations for this season as low as possible. No playoffs in
>>>sight....blah blah blah. Doug old boy....Wild fans are smarter than that.
>>>Just call it like it is. Your owner is too damn cheap to spend money to get
>>>talent so us fans can enjoy a playoff run. You'd rather line your pockets
>>>by putting a mediocre product on the ice knowing Minnesota fans will still
>>>come to games because we love hockey. We Minnesotans are not that stupid.
>>>Attendance will wane and we will force you to upgrade the talent. I think
>>>the current owners are just above Norm Green on the greedy scale.

>> Looks like Doug & Co. are building a foundation for the next couple of
>> seasons - and if MS&E are so greedy, it's curious that they aren't when it
>> comes to their AHL team...

>Shouldn't they have been doing that during the first couple of years when the
>team started out. Why did we make the playoffs a few years ago and then
>suddenly we are not a playoff team? Did we regress? Doug & Co are cheap. No
>other way to put it. If they were concerned about winning, they would upgrade
>talent. This is just a nice excuse Doug uses to support his frugal ways.

I suspect the Wild's approach is designed to avoid following the same path
that the Panthers did in their expansion era...if you remember, they spent
money for a few names and lucked out in getting all the way to the Stanley Cup
finals in their second season, where they were swept out by Colorado.
Minnesota started that way, making the Western finals in their third season,
but not by spending the $ on the talent...and Risebrough would like to build a
juggernaut from within, without ending up in the sorry state the Panthers have
declined into. (The only ray of hope in south Florida is that Mike Keenan
won't be the GM forever.) The Wild will be back, soon enough, and they won't
have mortgaged their future to do so. From what I've seen, I suspect if they
don't make the Cup chase in April, they won't miss it by much. (Of course,
the NHL is effectively 30 new teams this season, so we'll have to see how the
new CBA effects things.)

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:17 pm
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The Chief Instigator wrote:
> Golfox <golfisfun.DeleteThis@golfdom.com> writes:
>
>
>>The Chief Instigator wrote:
>>
>>>"Natiel" <Nate.DeleteThis@noone.com> writes:
>
>
>>>>Setting the expectations for this season as low as possible. No playoffs in
>>>>sight....blah blah blah. Doug old boy....Wild fans are smarter than that.
>>>>Just call it like it is. Your owner is too damn cheap to spend money to get
>>>>talent so us fans can enjoy a playoff run. You'd rather line your pockets
>>>>by putting a mediocre product on the ice knowing Minnesota fans will still
>>>>come to games because we love hockey. We Minnesotans are not that stupid.
>>>>Attendance will wane and we will force you to upgrade the talent. I think
>>>>the current owners are just above Norm Green on the greedy scale.
>
>
>>>Looks like Doug & Co. are building a foundation for the next couple of
>>>seasons - and if MS&E are so greedy, it's curious that they aren't when it
>>>comes to their AHL team...
>
>
>>Shouldn't they have been doing that during the first couple of years when the
>>team started out. Why did we make the playoffs a few years ago and then
>>suddenly we are not a playoff team? Did we regress? Doug & Co are cheap. No
>>other way to put it. If they were concerned about winning, they would upgrade
>>talent. This is just a nice excuse Doug uses to support his frugal ways.
>
>
> I suspect the Wild's approach is designed to avoid following the same path
> that the Panthers did in their expansion era...if you remember, they spent
> money for a few names and lucked out in getting all the way to the Stanley Cup
> finals in their second season, where they were swept out by Colorado.
> Minnesota started that way, making the Western finals in their third season,
> but not by spending the $ on the talent...and Risebrough would like to build a
> juggernaut from within, without ending up in the sorry state the Panthers have
> declined into. (The only ray of hope in south Florida is that Mike Keenan
> won't be the GM forever.) The Wild will be back, soon enough, and they won't
> have mortgaged their future to do so. From what I've seen, I suspect if they
> don't make the Cup chase in April, they won't miss it by much. (Of course,
> the NHL is effectively 30 new teams this season, so we'll have to see how the
> new CBA effects things.)
>
That's what they want you to believe. Let's face it. Salary cap is $39
million. Wild are at $22 million. They want to take advantage of fans
like you and brainwash them into thinking NOT spending money on veterans
is good. Wouldn't a single addition like Mike Modano have been great.
But.....and there is NO other way to say this, THE WILD OWNERS ARE
CHEAP. And here is the sad part, the Wild will develop talent, they
will become too expensive and they will let them go or trade them so
they don't have to pay them. As long as fans like you believe that
spending only half of the salary cap is great, they will continue to
operate this ways. FANS NEED TO REBEL. How many years have the Wild
been around, and yet we are still starting out building a team? Come
on. CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP.
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