Gauthier waived, Smith Captain

On Oct 1, 1:49 pm, "neon leon" <f.m....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Luke" <rluk....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> >I was hoping they'd keep Gauthier but I guess they think they have enough
> >hitting. If no one picks him up from waivers he'll go to the Phantoms and
> >be available as insurance but my guess is somebody will grab him off
> >waivers irregardless of his salary impact. I thought Gagne would get the C
> >but this is probably a good choice. Lets get started with the season......
>
> Another thought.... Out of the other candidates; Gagne, Kapanen, Briere,
> Timonen, etc... Smith's on-ice style is probably most like Primeau's style.

I think in this case it's more about the off-ice style, i.e. the
locker room. Which by all accounts makes Smith a great choice, and
made others in the past (Rico, Forsberg and especially Lindros) poor
choices. It's probably the same reason Gagne isn't--and will never be--
good captain material.

Pelle
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On Oct 1, 1:37 pm, "Luke" <rluk... RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> I was hoping they'd keep Gauthier but I guess they think they have enough
> hitting. If no one picks him up from waivers he'll go to the Phantoms and
> be available as insurance but my guess is somebody will grab him off waivers
> irregardless of his salary impact.

I see Gauthier clearing waivers on the way down, because his $4
million/2 years remaining deal is too much for what he brings to the
ice. Hard hitting, but also prone to dumb penalties, frequently
injured and useless offensively. A more likely scenario is that the
Flyers recall him at some point and he gets claimed, with the Flyers
on the hook for 50%. That might even be what the team wants: if he
gets claimed on re-entry, it's a $1 miilion/year cap hit for the 2
next seasons, whereas if they bought him out it would be $700K hit for
each of the next 4 seasons.

Pelle
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On Oct 1, 1:37 pm, "Luke" <rluk....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> I was hoping they'd keep Gauthier but I guess they think they have enough
> hitting. If no one picks him up from waivers he'll go to the Phantoms and
> be available as insurance but my guess is somebody will grab him off waivers
> irregardless of his salary impact. I thought Gagne would get the C but this
> is probably a good choice. Lets get started with the season......

managment and the coaching staff have made the right choice. smith is
the perfect captain for this team even though he's new. it could be
argued that it's like making hatcher captain a couple of years ago,
but they're different players and the circumstances are as well. smith
has the credentials, the ability, and durability. gagne and richards
are the right choices for assistants as well. gagne deserves it for
his tenure, quality of play (especially during last year's fiasco) and
durability. richards because he's being groomed to be the future
captain. he's come to play this season and make sure that last year
becomes a distant memory.

i'm mixed on gauthier. obviously they feel they can get better
perfromrance for the money, and this seems to be more of a cap
situation dictacting this decision more than anything else. it seems
unlikely that he'll get claimed either now or later in the season if
they try to bring him back through, but you never know how desperate a
team might be. there are plenty of young dmen to pick from and i
suspect we'll see stevens rotate them in and out of the flyers lineup
unless one really stands out.

not being a dick here, but irregardless is not a word. here are a
couple of explanations from dictionary.com:

Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be
correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in
nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in
the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for
being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the
logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less
suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it
is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and
unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will
probably continue to be so.

or this:

an erroneous word that, etymologically, means the exact opposite of
what it is used to express, attested in non-standard writing from
1912, probably a blend of irrespective and regardless. Perhaps
inspired by the double negative used as an emphatic.

just trying to help. drop the puck already!

-j
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"Luke" <rlukens RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I was hoping they'd keep Gauthier but I guess they think they have enough
>hitting. If no one picks him up from waivers he'll go to the Phantoms and
>be available as insurance but my guess is somebody will grab him off
>waivers irregardless of his salary impact. I thought Gagne would get the C
>but this is probably a good choice. Lets get started with the season......

And, Gagne and Richards get the A's.

Prediction.... Kapanen isn't a Flyer at the end of the year. He's
versatile, fast, plays hard, great leader... at 1.25 he's a steal and might
be trade bait.
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"Luke" <rlukens.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I was hoping they'd keep Gauthier but I guess they think they have enough
>hitting. If no one picks him up from waivers he'll go to the Phantoms and
>be available as insurance but my guess is somebody will grab him off
>waivers irregardless of his salary impact. I thought Gagne would get the C
>but this is probably a good choice. Lets get started with the season......
>

Another thought.... Out of the other candidates; Gagne, Kapanen, Briere,
Timonen, etc... Smith's on-ice style is probably most like Primeau's style.
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"neon leon" <f.mail.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Luke" <rlukens.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>I was hoping they'd keep Gauthier but I guess they think they have enough
>>hitting. If no one picks him up from waivers he'll go to the Phantoms and
>>be available as insurance but my guess is somebody will grab him off
>>waivers irregardless of his salary impact. I thought Gagne would get the
>>C but this is probably a good choice. Lets get started with the
>>season......
>
> And, Gagne and Richards get the A's.
>
> Prediction.... Kapanen isn't a Flyer at the end of the year. He's
> versatile, fast, plays hard, great leader... at 1.25 he's a steal and
> might be trade bait.
>
I don't know, it depends on where the Flyers are at the trade deadline but I
don't get the feeling he wants to go anywhere and if the Flyers are in
playoff contention they won't move him. Sami's a good, solid veteran player
but he's not a particularly good scorer so he would be more of a guy to add
depth for a playoff run. If he was planning on retiring after this season I
could see him approaching Flyers management and agreeing to a trade so that
the Flyers could get something in return but again, the Flyers would have to
be out of playoff contention for that scenario to take effect. Hopefully
the Flyers won't have those choices to make by then.
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Kappy's not going anywhere else. The "C" for him would have been about his
contributions in the past, so the Gags/Richards choice is about the future.
Smart decision.

C

"neon leon" <f.mail.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Luke" <rlukens.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:YJmdnbjZZal7vpzanZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>I was hoping they'd keep Gauthier but I guess they think they have enough
>>hitting. If no one picks him up from waivers he'll go to the Phantoms and
>>be available as insurance but my guess is somebody will grab him off
>>waivers irregardless of his salary impact. I thought Gagne would get the
>>C but this is probably a good choice. Lets get started with the
>>season......
>
> And, Gagne and Richards get the A's.
>
> Prediction.... Kapanen isn't a Flyer at the end of the year. He's
> versatile, fast, plays hard, great leader... at 1.25 he's a steal and
> might be trade bait.
>
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"Luke" <rlukens RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I was hoping they'd keep Gauthier but I guess they think they have enough
>hitting.

It's about money. I think management is still high on him, but with zero
wiggle room, we've got to cut somewhere. I still think Holmgren thinks we
might lure Foppa back. In any case, somebody's salary has got to go. But
Smith's presence might negate Gauthier's contribution some, so you're right
that maybe that was part of it.

At least we'll have fewer penalty kills.

C
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On Oct 1, 1:40?pm, "neon leon" <f.m... DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> "Luke" <rluk... DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:YJmdnbjZZal7vpzanZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
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> >I was hoping they'd keep Gauthier but I guess they think they have enough
> >hitting. If no one picks him up from waivers he'll go to the Phantoms and
> >be available as insurance but my guess is somebody will grab him off
> >waivers irregardless of his salary impact. I thought Gagne would get the C
> >but this is probably a good choice. Lets get started with the season......
>
> And, Gagne and Richards get the A's.
>
> Prediction.... Kapanen isn't a Flyer at the end of the year. He's
> versatile, fast, plays hard, great leader... at 1.25 he's a steal and might
> be trade bait.

Kapanen has a no trade clause. He took less money and in return he
received the NTC
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On Oct 1, 10:41 pm, Rick Y <nu....DeleteThis@business.com> wrote:

> Use it. The best thing about this years Eagles from my perspective is I
> didn't pay for the Sunday ticket. That $259.00 saved this year. Do you
> have any idea how much beer I can buy for $259.00?

More than a 40oz?
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>> For the first time in a long time I actually feel badly for Mets fans.
>> Maybe.
>
> i will never EVER feel badly for sports fans of ANY ny team. EVER.
>

Agreed. Fully understanding HOW they feel is quite different that feeling
badly for them.

F'em.
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> Agreed. Fully understanding HOW they feel is quite different that feeling
> badly for them.

....different *than* feeling badly for them.

Sorry, g.
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Chuck wrote:

>>Agreed. Fully understanding HOW they feel is quite different that feeling
>>badly for them.
>
>
> ...different *than* feeling badly for them.
>
> Sorry, g.

heh. i would of said something but you're correction was so quick.
their's nothing like free time to post, huh?

g
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