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Sulking Sphynx

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:24 pm
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Fernandez stunk tonight. If we don't see improvement from him there will be
a juicy goaltending controversy because Thomas is much better than that.
Imagine TT winning the starting job and the B's end up having a 4 million
dollar backup goalie. Not likely perhaps but possible.

Where is the aggressive forecheck we kept hearing about? Well, it's only
been a year and one game. Give 'em a chance. Savard and Murray had the
intensity of last year while nobody on Bergy's line crashed the net.
Krejci's line was the only one that showed signs of life in the attack zone
although they caused a few head slaps down the other end.

What's the big deal about Kobasew? Mark Stuart still looks like a journeyman
at best, if he ever even makes it. I'll never understand what all the hoopla
was over him. He doesn't impress me.

I am officially fed up with Chiarelli. He is undoing many of the good things
Gorton did and replacing them with nothing special. All that talk about
Bochenski last year and he's a healthy scratch who's 20 lbs heavier and so
slow they don't even want to play him.

Peter Schaefer looked good but I miss Sean Donovan, hahahhaha.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:37 am
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On Oct 6, 7:31 am, smacdo <f....TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
> "Sulking Sphynx" <sph....TakeThisOut@snet.net> wrote innews:0eDNi.364$LD2.324@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net:
>
> > Fernandez stunk tonight. If we don't see improvement from him there
> > will be a juicy goaltending controversy because Thomas is much better
> > than that. Imagine TT winning the starting job and the B's end up
> > having a 4 million dollar backup goalie. Not likely perhaps but
> > possible.
>
> Dumbest. Acquisition. Ever.

While not the dumbest acquisition ever, it does have great potential
as a really
stupid and unnecessary move.

>
> Thornton played a big game for SJ tonight. I'm glad we got rid of him,
> he showed no leadership and just coasted most of the time. Since he's
> been gone the team can finally say they play with edge and passion.

So how long is this Thornton thing going to go on here?

I love the sarcasm attached but it doesn't change the fact that indeed
Joe did
coast often and showed zero leadership when he was here. Don't try to
revise
history. Did anyone in hockey call Joe Thornton "perhaps the best
player in the
game today" when he was in Boston? Yet playing in no-media-coverage-
West
Coast San Jose, he is sooo good that that is exactly what experts now
say. Do
you think they just overlooked him in Boston?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:45 am
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"Sulking Sphynx" <sphynx RemoveThis @snet.net> wrote in
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> Fernandez stunk tonight. If we don't see improvement from him there
> will be a juicy goaltending controversy because Thomas is much better
> than that. Imagine TT winning the starting job and the B's end up
> having a 4 million dollar backup goalie. Not likely perhaps but
> possible.

Dumbest. Acquisition. Ever.


> Where is the aggressive forecheck we kept hearing about? Well, it's
> only been a year and one game. Give 'em a chance. Savard and Murray
> had the intensity of last year while nobody on Bergy's line crashed
> the net. Krejci's line was the only one that showed signs of life in
> the attack zone although they caused a few head slaps down the other
> end.
>
> What's the big deal about Kobasew? Mark Stuart still looks like a
> journeyman at best, if he ever even makes it. I'll never understand
> what all the hoopla was over him. He doesn't impress me.

Flat, uninspiring, pedestrian, lifeless, boring loss. Bruins hockey.
Since the strike, this team has been defined by the adjectives I
previously used. But hey, at least we saw a couple of fights.


> I am officially fed up with Chiarelli.


I'm not a fan of his, that's for sure. Other than Chara and Savard (who
were pretty much no brainers), I don't think there has been one move that
has been a guaranteed plus. And some will tell you that even the money
they spent on Chara was kind of a negative, given that he is just one guy
on a team with more holes than a bordello...

Thornton played a big game for SJ tonight. I'm glad we got rid of him,
he showed no leadership and just coasted most of the time. Since he's
been gone the team can finally say they play with edge and passion.

Oh wait. No they can't.

That trade was the first domino in a line of moves and decisions that led
us to the brutal, shitty hockey we see played every night by the Wearers
of the Spoked B. This organization has been PLAGUED with mismanagement
for the last several years, and Chiarelli is just the latest link in the
chain.

1 down, too many to go. I'm not very optimistic about this year.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:24 am
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"smacdo" <fake DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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>>...
>> I am officially fed up with Chiarelli.
>
>
> I'm not a fan of his, that's for sure. Other than Chara and Savard (who
> were pretty much no brainers), I don't think there has been one move that
> has been a guaranteed plus. And some will tell you that even the money
> they spent on Chara was kind of a negative, given that he is just one guy
> on a team with more holes than a bordello...

I'm sure Chiarelli had a little to do with signing Chara but it was Gorton
who pulled off Chara and Savard. Once Chia took over it was Dave Lewis and
the continual trading of young talent away for the Bochenskis, Widemans,
Soderbergs and anyone else we never heard of.

>
> Thornton played a big game for SJ tonight. I'm glad we got rid of him,
> he showed no leadership and just coasted most of the time. Since he's
> been gone the team can finally say they play with edge and passion.
>
> Oh wait. No they can't.
>
> That trade was the first domino in a line of moves and decisions that led
> us to the brutal, shitty hockey we see played every night by the Wearers
> of the Spoked B. This organization has been PLAGUED with mismanagement
> for the last several years, and Chiarelli is just the latest link in the
> chain.
>

I've read several predictions that have San Jose going all the way. Sturm is
all we have left from that worst trade ever and he was non-existent last
night.

> 1 down, too many to go. I'm not very optimistic about this year.
>

I won't give up yet but right now hindsight has me wishing we kept Gorton.
Hope that changes.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:45 pm
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Bog53 <ThomasBoglarski.DeleteThis@sbcGlobal.net> wrote in
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>> Dumbest. Acquisition. Ever.
>
> While not the dumbest acquisition ever, it does have great potential
> as a really stupid and unnecessary move.

There aren't many in the recent past I would put below it...


> So how long is this Thornton thing going to go on here?

Was there something from last night I should have spent my time talking
about? ;)


> I love the sarcasm attached but it doesn't change the fact that indeed
> Joe did coast often and showed zero leadership when he was here.

Tell you what...given the state of this team right now, I will take Jumbo
at 70% over roughly anyone in the lineup.

> Don't try to revise history.

I'm not. What I am saying is what we considered "problems" before, I
would kill to have them now.


> Did anyone in hockey call Joe Thornton "perhaps the best
> player in the game today" when he was in Boston?

He was always in the upper tier. Always. And his biggest sin in Boston
was not being Cam Neely v2.0 when you get right down to it. I don't
think its any big coincidence that when he had some of the unrealistic
expectations dialled down, his career took off. It might not have been
the only problem, but I could see it being a big part of the problem...

And, for the record, my biggest problem has always been the compost heap
we received in return...not the trading of Joe itself.


> Yet playing in no-media-coverage-
> West Coast San Jose,


I wouldn't go bashing San Jose...they are a hell of a lot more relevant
on the hockey scene, both in their city and nationally, than our boys in
black. The Bruins are currently battling the Blackhawks for least
relevant former hockey stronghold in the league.


> he is sooo good that that is exactly
> what experts now say. Do
> you think they just overlooked him in Boston?

Not overlooked, but largely underappreciated...
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:45 pm
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smacdo wrote:
> Bog53 <ThomasBoglarski.TakeThisOut@sbcGlobal.net> wrote:
>
> > So how long is this Thornton thing going to go on here?
>
> Was there something from last night I should have spent my time
> talking about? ;)
>
> > I love the sarcasm attached but it doesn't change the fact that
> > indeed Joe did coast often and showed zero leadership when he was
> > here.
>
> Tell you what...given the state of this team right now, I will take
> Jumbo at 70% over roughly anyone in the lineup.
>
> > Don't try to revise history.
>
> I'm not. What I am saying is what we considered "problems" before, I
> would kill to have them now.
>
> > Did anyone in hockey call Joe Thornton "perhaps the best
> > player in the game today" when he was in Boston?
>
> He was always in the upper tier. Always. And his biggest sin in
> Boston was not being Cam Neely v2.0 when you get right down to it. I
> don't think its any big coincidence that when he had some of the
> unrealistic expectations dialled down, his career took off. It might
> not have been the only problem, but I could see it being a big part
> of the problem...
>
> And, for the record, my biggest problem has always been the compost
> heap we received in return...not the trading of Joe itself.
>
> > Yet playing in no-media-coverage-
> > West Coast San Jose,
>
> I wouldn't go bashing San Jose...they are a hell of a lot more
> relevant on the hockey scene, both in their city and nationally, than
> our boys in black. The Bruins are currently battling the Blackhawks
> for least relevant former hockey stronghold in the league.
>
> > he is sooo good that that is exactly
> > what experts now say. Do
> > you think they just overlooked him in Boston?
>
> Not overlooked, but largely underappreciated...

Taking the "C" off his jersey (which many felt came way too
soon, including me) made a big difference!
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:56 pm
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On Oct 6, 1:54 pm, smacdo <f....DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote:
> Bog53 <ThomasBoglar....DeleteThis@sbcGlobal.net> wrote innews:1191681454.518772.305670@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> Dumbest. Acquisition. Ever.
>
> > While not the dumbest acquisition ever, it does have great potential
> > as a really stupid and unnecessary move.
>
> There aren't many in the recent past I would put below it...
>
> > So how long is this Thornton thing going to go on here?
>
> Was there something from last night I should have spent my time talking
> about? ;)
>
> > I love the sarcasm attached but it doesn't change the fact that indeed
> > Joe did coast often and showed zero leadership when he was here.
>
> Tell you what...given the state of this team right now, I will take Jumbo
> at 70% over roughly anyone in the lineup.
>
> > Don't try to revise history.
>
> I'm not. What I am saying is what we considered "problems" before, I
> would kill to have them now.
>
> > Did anyone in hockey call Joe Thornton "perhaps the best
> > player in the game today" when he was in Boston?
>
> He was always in the upper tier. Always. And his biggest sin in Boston
> was not being Cam Neely v2.0 when you get right down to it. I don't
> think its any big coincidence that when he had some of the unrealistic
> expectations dialled down, his career took off. It might not have been
> the only problem, but I could see it being a big part of the problem...
>
> And, for the record, my biggest problem has always been the compost heap
> we received in return...not the trading of Joe itself.
>
> > Yet playing in no-media-coverage-
> > West Coast San Jose,
>
> I wouldn't go bashing San Jose...they are a hell of a lot more relevant
> on the hockey scene, both in their city and nationally, than our boys in
> black. The Bruins are currently battling the Blackhawks for least
> relevant former hockey stronghold in the league.
>
> > he is sooo good that that is exactly
> > what experts now say. Do
> > you think they just overlooked him in Boston?
>
> Not overlooked, but largely underappreciated...

All right Smacdo, bring that fire to the plate early!

The point about San Jose is the usual "East Coast bias" thing everyone
talks
about, the major media doesn't see the west Coast enough. I'm well
aware of how
good they are. Most experts are picking them to win the Cup.

And I completely agree with the trade. B's could have and should have
gotten a lot
more for Thornton.
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