Rumors aboung

On 2008-06-02 15:03:08 -0700, "Mr. T" <ted.pederson RemoveThis @gmail.com> said:

> Rumor is RW going to the Leafs.
>
> Another one is Marleau + unspecified player to Columbus for 6th
> overall pick + Zherdev. While I would prefer to retain the current
> roster and sign Campbell, if the Sharks are going to dump salary I
> would think this to be a good deal, as long as "unspecified" isn't too
> significant.

How about starting a rumor that is favorable to the Sharks - maybe
something with Holmgren coming to the Sharks from Detroit?
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On Jun 2, 7:21 pm, MS <n... DeleteThis @attbi.com> wrote:
> On 2008-06-02 15:03:08 -0700, "Mr. T" <ted.peder... DeleteThis @gmail.com> said:
>
> > Rumor is RW going to the Leafs.
>
> > Another one is Marleau + unspecified player to Columbus for 6th
> > overall pick + Zherdev. While I would prefer to retain the current
> > roster and sign Campbell, if the Sharks are going to dump salary I
> > would think this to be a good deal, as long as "unspecified" isn't too
> > significant.
>
> How about starting a rumor that is favorable to the Sharks - maybe
> something with Holmgren coming to the Sharks from Detroit?

A 6th overall pick for a guy with a super bloated salary, who
basically looked like 10 lbs of excrement in a 5lb bag for most of
last season? Sounds pretty favorable to me. Keep in mind that most
teams aren't going to touch Marleau and his contract with a 10 ft
pole. In fact, if the Sharks are bent on dumping salary, I fear they
get stuck with Marleau and have to give up Campbell.
 >> Stay informed about: Rumors aboung 

On Jun 2, 11:02 pm, "Mr. T" <ted.peder....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 2, 7:21 pm, MS <n....TakeThisOut@attbi.com> wrote:
>
> > On 2008-06-02 15:03:08 -0700, "Mr. T" <ted.peder....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> said:
>
> > > Rumor is RW going to the Leafs.
>
> > > Another one is Marleau + unspecified player to Columbus for 6th
> > > overall pick + Zherdev. While I would prefer to retain the current
> > > roster and sign Campbell, if the Sharks are going to dump salary I
> > > would think this to be a good deal, as long as "unspecified" isn't too
> > > significant.
>
> > How about starting a rumor that is favorable to the Sharks - maybe
> > something with Holmgren coming to the Sharks from Detroit?
>
> A 6th overall pick for a guy with a super bloated salary, who
> basically looked like 10 lbs of excrement in a 5lb bag for most of
> last season? Sounds pretty favorable to me. Keep in mind that most
> teams aren't going to touch Marleau and his contract with a 10 ft
> pole. In fact, if the Sharks are bent on dumping salary, I fear they
> get stuck with Marleau and have to give up Campbell.

I am reading more press about these rumors, and I seem to be in the
minority. People, mostly fans and bloggers, seem to have this notion
that Marleau can bring more in a trade. How about Nash and their first
two picks? The sky seems to be the limit.
 >> Stay informed about: Rumors aboung 

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:54:50 -0700 (PDT), "Mr. T"
<ted.pederson RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jun 2, 11:02 pm, "Mr. T" <ted.peder... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 2, 7:21 pm, MS <n... RemoveThis @attbi.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On 2008-06-02 15:03:08 -0700, "Mr. T" <ted.peder... RemoveThis @gmail.com> said:
>>
>> > > Rumor is RW going to the Leafs.
>>
>> > > Another one is Marleau + unspecified player to Columbus for 6th
>> > > overall pick + Zherdev. While I would prefer to retain the current
>> > > roster and sign Campbell, if the Sharks are going to dump salary I
>> > > would think this to be a good deal, as long as "unspecified" isn't too
>> > > significant.
>>
>> > How about starting a rumor that is favorable to the Sharks - maybe
>> > something with Holmgren coming to the Sharks from Detroit?
>>
>> A 6th overall pick for a guy with a super bloated salary, who
>> basically looked like 10 lbs of excrement in a 5lb bag for most of
>> last season? Sounds pretty favorable to me. Keep in mind that most
>> teams aren't going to touch Marleau and his contract with a 10 ft
>> pole. In fact, if the Sharks are bent on dumping salary, I fear they
>> get stuck with Marleau and have to give up Campbell.
>
>I am reading more press about these rumors, and I seem to be in the
>minority. People, mostly fans and bloggers, seem to have this notion
>that Marleau can bring more in a trade. How about Nash and their first
>two picks? The sky seems to be the limit.

I doubt DW will trade Marleau until he gets a definite yes or no from
Campbell. Since Campbell will probably be signed by the Sharks prior
to July 1st, or by someone else on the 1st, the same day Marleau's NTC
goes into effect, time is short for both decisions. And you would
think Campbell would want to know who the coach will be before he
signs. So I guess I expect a flurry of announcements in the next two
weeks...

DW also needs to sign or trade RFAs Ehrhoff, Pavelski, Clowe, and Goc,
plus a couple of minor league guys, before the end of the summer, as
well as decide whether to offer UFAs Brown, Rissmiller, Plihal,
Shelley, Semenov, Patzold, and Boucher, a contract, before they talk
with other teams on the 1st.

Knowing DW's "less is more" philosophy, I won't be surprised if he
lets Campbell go if he wants too much money, or keeps Marleau. But I
do think Pavs has proven he can play 2nd line center, and can be
signed more affordably. Packaging Clowe, Ehrhoff and Marleau for a
high scoring winger and some high draft picks makes a lot of sense as
it solves the cap issue (both the NHL, and the self-imposed one),
gives Setoguchi and Couture a chance to crack the top 6, and allows
the Sharks to play in this year's deep draft, where they lack any
picks in the first three rounds.
 >> Stay informed about: Rumors aboung 

On Jun 3, 12:47 pm, Duane <letskee... DeleteThis @posting4now.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:54:50 -0700 (PDT), "Mr. T"
>
>
>
> <ted.peder... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jun 2, 11:02 pm, "Mr. T" <ted.peder... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Jun 2, 7:21 pm, MS <n... DeleteThis @attbi.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On 2008-06-02 15:03:08 -0700, "Mr. T" <ted.peder... DeleteThis @gmail.com> said:
>
> >> > > Rumor is RW going to the Leafs.
>
> >> > > Another one is Marleau + unspecified player to Columbus for 6th
> >> > > overall pick + Zherdev. While I would prefer to retain the current
> >> > > roster and sign Campbell, if the Sharks are going to dump salary I
> >> > > would think this to be a good deal, as long as "unspecified" isn't too
> >> > > significant.
>
> >> > How about starting a rumor that is favorable to the Sharks - maybe
> >> > something with Holmgren coming to the Sharks from Detroit?
>
> >> A 6th overall pick for a guy with a super bloated salary, who
> >> basically looked like 10 lbs of excrement in a 5lb bag for most of
> >> last season? Sounds pretty favorable to me. Keep in mind that most
> >> teams aren't going to touch Marleau and his contract with a 10 ft
> >> pole. In fact, if the Sharks are bent on dumping salary, I fear they
> >> get stuck with Marleau and have to give up Campbell.
>
> >I am reading more press about these rumors, and I seem to be in the
> >minority. People, mostly fans and bloggers, seem to have this notion
> >that Marleau can bring more in a trade. How about Nash and their first
> >two picks? The sky seems to be the limit.
>
> I doubt DW will trade Marleau until he gets a definite yes or no from
> Campbell. Since Campbell will probably be signed by the Sharks prior
> to July 1st, or by someone else on the 1st, the same day Marleau's NTC
> goes into effect, time is short for both decisions. And you would
> think Campbell would want to know who the coach will be before he
> signs. So I guess I expect a flurry of announcements in the next two
> weeks...
>
> DW also needs to sign or trade RFAs Ehrhoff, Pavelski, Clowe, and Goc,
> plus a couple of minor league guys, before the end of the summer, as
> well as decide whether to offer UFAs Brown, Rissmiller, Plihal,
> Shelley, Semenov, Patzold, and Boucher, a contract, before they talk
> with other teams on the 1st.
>
> Knowing DW's "less is more" philosophy, I won't be surprised if he
> lets Campbell go if he wants too much money, or keeps Marleau. But I
> do think Pavs has proven he can play 2nd line center, and can be
> signed more affordably. Packaging Clowe, Ehrhoff and Marleau for a
> high scoring winger and some high draft picks makes a lot of sense as
> it solves the cap issue (both the NHL, and the self-imposed one),
> gives Setoguchi and Couture a chance to crack the top 6, and allows
> the Sharks to play in this year's deep draft, where they lack any
> picks in the first three rounds.

Wow, I'd major return for Clowe, Ehrhoff and Marleau. They'd be
reloading and forgetting about the right now. It might be time to do
that, if they don't want to pony up the money.
 >> Stay informed about: Rumors aboung 

On Jun 3, 3:58 pm, "Mr. T" <ted.peder....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 12:47 pm, Duane <letskee....TakeThisOut@posting4now.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:54:50 -0700 (PDT), "Mr. T"
>
> > <ted.peder....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Jun 2, 11:02 pm, "Mr. T" <ted.peder....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On Jun 2, 7:21 pm, MS <n....TakeThisOut@attbi.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > On 2008-06-02 15:03:08 -0700, "Mr. T" <ted.peder....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> said:
>
> > >> > > Rumor is RW going to the Leafs.
>
> > >> > > Another one is Marleau + unspecified player to Columbus for 6th
> > >> > > overall pick + Zherdev. While I would prefer to retain the current
> > >> > > roster and sign Campbell, if the Sharks are going to dump salary I
> > >> > > would think this to be a good deal, as long as "unspecified" isn't too
> > >> > > significant.
>
> > >> > How about starting a rumor that is favorable to the Sharks - maybe
> > >> > something with Holmgren coming to the Sharks from Detroit?
>
> > >> A 6th overall pick for a guy with a super bloated salary, who
> > >> basically looked like 10 lbs of excrement in a 5lb bag for most of
> > >> last season? Sounds pretty favorable to me. Keep in mind that most
> > >> teams aren't going to touch Marleau and his contract with a 10 ft
> > >> pole. In fact, if the Sharks are bent on dumping salary, I fear they
> > >> get stuck with Marleau and have to give up Campbell.
>
> > >I am reading more press about these rumors, and I seem to be in the
> > >minority. People, mostly fans and bloggers, seem to have this notion
> > >that Marleau can bring more in a trade. How about Nash and their first
> > >two picks? The sky seems to be the limit.
>
> > I doubt DW will trade Marleau until he gets a definite yes or no from
> > Campbell.  Since Campbell will probably be signed by the Sharks prior
> > to July 1st, or by someone else on the 1st, the same day Marleau's NTC
> > goes into effect, time is short for both decisions.  And you would
> > think Campbell would want to know who the coach will be before he
> > signs.  So I guess I expect a flurry of announcements in the next two
> > weeks...
>
> > DW also needs to sign or trade RFAs Ehrhoff, Pavelski, Clowe, and Goc,
> > plus a couple of minor league guys, before the end of the summer,  as
> > well as decide whether to offer UFAs Brown, Rissmiller, Plihal,
> > Shelley, Semenov, Patzold, and Boucher, a contract, before they talk
> > with other teams on the 1st.
>
> > Knowing DW's "less is more" philosophy, I won't be surprised if he
> > lets Campbell go if he wants too much money, or keeps Marleau.  But I
> > do think Pavs has proven he can play 2nd line center, and can be
> > signed more affordably.  Packaging Clowe, Ehrhoff and Marleau for a
> > high scoring winger and some high draft picks makes a lot of sense as
> > it solves the cap issue (both the NHL, and the self-imposed one),
> > gives Setoguchi and Couture a chance to crack the top 6, and allows
> > the Sharks to play in this year's deep draft, where they lack any
> > picks in the first three rounds.
>
> Wow, I'd major return for Clowe, Ehrhoff and Marleau. They'd be
> reloading and forgetting about the right now. It might be time to do
> that, if they don't want to pony up the money.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Forgetting the "now?" Who on that list makes the current Sharks a Cup
contender? (Before you answer that, just think back to any of the
past few games we've watched in the Finals, and tell me who in that
list even qualifies?)
 >> Stay informed about: Rumors aboung 

On Jun 3, 1:18 pm, tack <thetac....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 3:58 pm, "Mr. T" <ted.peder....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 3, 12:47 pm, Duane <letskee....TakeThisOut@posting4now.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:54:50 -0700 (PDT), "Mr. T"
>
> > > <ted.peder....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >On Jun 2, 11:02 pm, "Mr. T" <ted.peder....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> On Jun 2, 7:21 pm, MS <n....TakeThisOut@attbi.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> > On 2008-06-02 15:03:08 -0700, "Mr. T" <ted.peder....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> said:
>
> > > >> > > Rumor is RW going to the Leafs.
>
> > > >> > > Another one is Marleau + unspecified player to Columbus for 6th
> > > >> > > overall pick + Zherdev. While I would prefer to retain the current
> > > >> > > roster and sign Campbell, if the Sharks are going to dump salary I
> > > >> > > would think this to be a good deal, as long as "unspecified" isn't too
> > > >> > > significant.
>
> > > >> > How about starting a rumor that is favorable to the Sharks - maybe
> > > >> > something with Holmgren coming to the Sharks from Detroit?
>
> > > >> A 6th overall pick for a guy with a super bloated salary, who
> > > >> basically looked like 10 lbs of excrement in a 5lb bag for most of
> > > >> last season? Sounds pretty favorable to me. Keep in mind that most
> > > >> teams aren't going to touch Marleau and his contract with a 10 ft
> > > >> pole. In fact, if the Sharks are bent on dumping salary, I fear they
> > > >> get stuck with Marleau and have to give up Campbell.
>
> > > >I am reading more press about these rumors, and I seem to be in the
> > > >minority. People, mostly fans and bloggers, seem to have this notion
> > > >that Marleau can bring more in a trade. How about Nash and their first
> > > >two picks? The sky seems to be the limit.
>
> > > I doubt DW will trade Marleau until he gets a definite yes or no from
> > > Campbell. Since Campbell will probably be signed by the Sharks prior
> > > to July 1st, or by someone else on the 1st, the same day Marleau's NTC
> > > goes into effect, time is short for both decisions. And you would
> > > think Campbell would want to know who the coach will be before he
> > > signs. So I guess I expect a flurry of announcements in the next two
> > > weeks...
>
> > > DW also needs to sign or trade RFAs Ehrhoff, Pavelski, Clowe, and Goc,
> > > plus a couple of minor league guys, before the end of the summer, as
> > > well as decide whether to offer UFAs Brown, Rissmiller, Plihal,
> > > Shelley, Semenov, Patzold, and Boucher, a contract, before they talk
> > > with other teams on the 1st.
>
> > > Knowing DW's "less is more" philosophy, I won't be surprised if he
> > > lets Campbell go if he wants too much money, or keeps Marleau. But I
> > > do think Pavs has proven he can play 2nd line center, and can be
> > > signed more affordably. Packaging Clowe, Ehrhoff and Marleau for a
> > > high scoring winger and some high draft picks makes a lot of sense as
> > > it solves the cap issue (both the NHL, and the self-imposed one),
> > > gives Setoguchi and Couture a chance to crack the top 6, and allows
> > > the Sharks to play in this year's deep draft, where they lack any
> > > picks in the first three rounds.
>
> > Wow, I'd major return for Clowe, Ehrhoff and Marleau. They'd be
> > reloading and forgetting about the right now. It might be time to do
> > that, if they don't want to pony up the money.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Forgetting the "now?" Who on that list makes the current Sharks a Cup
> contender? (Before you answer that, just think back to any of the
> past few games we've watched in the Finals, and tell me who in that
> list even qualifies?)

Clowe has looked like maybe the only playoff-ready skater (Nabby
excluded) on the entire team at times. There's plenty teams that would
give up goods for Clowe. Clowe + Marleau should bring a lot.

As for now versus the future, a valid scenario if you believe in the
now is retain the players and don't necessarily skimp on a coach.
That's one end of the spectrum. The other end is a fire-sale scenario
like the 3 player dump mentioned above.

The middle ground is probably let Campbell or Marleau go, parade
through next season same as always, burn more long-term assets at the
deadline grabbing at what will turn out to be some expensive, non-
productive rental, and exit in the 2nd round. Rinse, repeat.

I like Duane's fire-sale trade because at least it shows some vision.
 >> Stay informed about: Rumors aboung 

On 2008-06-03 13:18:03 -0700, tack <thetacker.DeleteThis@gmail.com> said:

> On Jun 3, 3:58 pm, "Mr. T" <ted.peder....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 3, 12:47 pm, Duane <letskee....DeleteThis@posting4now.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:54:50 -0700 (PDT), "Mr. T"
>>
>>> <ted.peder....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Jun 2, 11:02 pm, "Mr. T" <ted.peder....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 2, 7:21 pm, MS <n....DeleteThis@attbi.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> On 2008-06-02 15:03:08 -0700, "Mr. T" <ted.peder....DeleteThis@gmail.com> said
> :
>>
>>>>>>> Rumor is RW going to the Leafs.
>>
>>>>>>> Another one is Marleau + unspecified player to Columbus for 6th
>>>>>>> overall pick + Zherdev. While I would prefer to retain the curren
> t
>>>>>>> roster and sign Campbell, if the Sharks are going to dump salary
> I
>>>>>>> would think this to be a good deal, as long as "unspecified" isn'
> t too
>>>>>>> significant.
>>
>>>>>> How about starting a rumor that is favorable to the Sharks - maybe
>>>>>> something with Holmgren coming to the Sharks from Detroit?
>>
>>>>> A 6th overall pick for a guy with a super bloated salary, who
>>>>> basically looked like 10 lbs of excrement in a 5lb bag for most of
>>>>> last season? Sounds pretty favorable to me. Keep in mind that most
>>>>> teams aren't going to touch Marleau and his contract with a 10 ft
>>>>> pole. In fact, if the Sharks are bent on dumping salary, I fear they
>>>>> get stuck with Marleau and have to give up Campbell.
>>
>>>> I am reading more press about these rumors, and I seem to be in the
>>>> minority. People, mostly fans and bloggers, seem to have this notion
>>>> that Marleau can bring more in a trade. How about Nash and their first
>>>> two picks? The sky seems to be the limit.
>>
>>> I doubt DW will trade Marleau until he gets a definite yes or no from
>>> Campbell.  Since Campbell will probably be signed by the Sharks prior
>>> to July 1st, or by someone else on the 1st, the same day Marleau's NTC
>>> goes into effect, time is short for both decisions.  And you would
>>> think Campbell would want to know who the coach will be before he
>>> signs.  So I guess I expect a flurry of announcements in the next two
>>> weeks...
>>
>>> DW also needs to sign or trade RFAs Ehrhoff, Pavelski, Clowe, and Goc,
>>> plus a couple of minor league guys, before the end of the summer,  as
>>> well as decide whether to offer UFAs Brown, Rissmiller, Plihal,
>>> Shelley, Semenov, Patzold, and Boucher, a contract, before they talk
>>> with other teams on the 1st.
>>
>>> Knowing DW's "less is more" philosophy, I won't be surprised if he
>>> lets Campbell go if he wants too much money, or keeps Marleau.  But I
>>> do think Pavs has proven he can play 2nd line center, and can be
>>> signed more affordably.  Packaging Clowe, Ehrhoff and Marleau for a
>>> high scoring winger and some high draft picks makes a lot of sense as
>>> it solves the cap issue (both the NHL, and the self-imposed one),
>>> gives Setoguchi and Couture a chance to crack the top 6, and allows
>>> the Sharks to play in this year's deep draft, where they lack any
>>> picks in the first three rounds.
>>
>> Wow, I'd major return for Clowe, Ehrhoff and Marleau. They'd be
>> reloading and forgetting about the right now. It might be time to do
>> that, if they don't want to pony up the money.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Forgetting the "now?" Who on that list makes the current Sharks a Cup
> contender? (Before you answer that, just think back to any of the
> past few games we've watched in the Finals, and tell me who in that
> list even qualifies?)

Campbell because he can move the puck up ice like Detroit and Clowe
because he's not afraid to stand in front of the goal like Holmstrom.
Ehrhoff can move the puck, but makes a lot of mistakes. Pavelski is a
good journeyman center. None of the others (including Marleau) do
anything to improve the team to Detroit's level.
 >> Stay informed about: Rumors aboung 

On Jun 3, 6:50 pm, MS <n....DeleteThis@attbi.com> wrote:
> On 2008-06-03 13:18:03 -0700, tack <thetac....DeleteThis@gmail.com> said:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 3, 3:58 pm, "Mr. T" <ted.peder....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Jun 3, 12:47 pm, Duane <letskee....DeleteThis@posting4now.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:54:50 -0700 (PDT), "Mr. T"
>
> >>> <ted.peder....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Jun 2, 11:02 pm, "Mr. T" <ted.peder....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Jun 2, 7:21 pm, MS <n....DeleteThis@attbi.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> On 2008-06-02 15:03:08 -0700, "Mr. T" <ted.peder....DeleteThis@gmail.com> said
> > :
>
> >>>>>>> Rumor is RW going to the Leafs.
>
> >>>>>>> Another one is Marleau + unspecified player to Columbus for 6th
> >>>>>>> overall pick + Zherdev. While I would prefer to retain the curren
> > t
> >>>>>>> roster and sign Campbell, if the Sharks are going to dump salary
> > I
> >>>>>>> would think this to be a good deal, as long as "unspecified" isn'
> > t too
> >>>>>>> significant.
>
> >>>>>> How about starting a rumor that is favorable to the Sharks - maybe
> >>>>>> something with Holmgren coming to the Sharks from Detroit?
>
> >>>>> A 6th overall pick for a guy with a super bloated salary, who
> >>>>> basically looked like 10 lbs of excrement in a 5lb bag for most of
> >>>>> last season? Sounds pretty favorable to me. Keep in mind that most
> >>>>> teams aren't going to touch Marleau and his contract with a 10 ft
> >>>>> pole. In fact, if the Sharks are bent on dumping salary, I fear they
> >>>>> get stuck with Marleau and have to give up Campbell.
>
> >>>> I am reading more press about these rumors, and I seem to be in the
> >>>> minority. People, mostly fans and bloggers, seem to have this notion
> >>>> that Marleau can bring more in a trade. How about Nash and their first
> >>>> two picks? The sky seems to be the limit.
>
> >>> I doubt DW will trade Marleau until he gets a definite yes or no from
> >>> Campbell.  Since Campbell will probably be signed by the Sharks prior
> >>> to July 1st, or by someone else on the 1st, the same day Marleau's NTC
> >>> goes into effect, time is short for both decisions.  And you would
> >>> think Campbell would want to know who the coach will be before he
> >>> signs.  So I guess I expect a flurry of announcements in the next two
> >>> weeks...
>
> >>> DW also needs to sign or trade RFAs Ehrhoff, Pavelski, Clowe, and Goc,
> >>> plus a couple of minor league guys, before the end of the summer,  as
> >>> well as decide whether to offer UFAs Brown, Rissmiller, Plihal,
> >>> Shelley, Semenov, Patzold, and Boucher, a contract, before they talk
> >>> with other teams on the 1st.
>
> >>> Knowing DW's "less is more" philosophy, I won't be surprised if he
> >>> lets Campbell go if he wants too much money, or keeps Marleau.  But I
> >>> do think Pavs has proven he can play 2nd line center, and can be
> >>> signed more affordably.  Packaging Clowe, Ehrhoff and Marleau for a
> >>> high scoring winger and some high draft picks makes a lot of sense as
> >>> it solves the cap issue (both the NHL, and the self-imposed one),
> >>> gives Setoguchi and Couture a chance to crack the top 6, and allows
> >>> the Sharks to play in this year's deep draft, where they lack any
> >>> picks in the first three rounds.
>
> >> Wow, I'd major return for Clowe, Ehrhoff and Marleau. They'd be
> >> reloading and forgetting about the right now. It might be time to do
> >> that, if they don't want to pony up the money.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Forgetting the "now?"  Who on that list makes the current Sharks a Cup
> > contender?  (Before you answer that, just think back to any of the
> > past few games we've watched in the Finals, and tell me who in that
> > list even qualifies?)
>
> Campbell because he can move the puck up ice like Detroit and Clowe
> because he's not afraid to stand in front of the goal like Holmstrom.
> Ehrhoff can move the puck, but makes a lot of mistakes. Pavelski is a
> good journeyman center. None of the others (including Marleau) do
> anything to improve the team to Detroit's level.- Hide quoted text -
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Campbell and Pavs would be nice to keep. I'd part with Marleau and
Clowe if it brought us somebody, like Semin, who would be a force now,
not some prospect for the future. Ehrhoff is tradeable, too, in my
book. (Speaking of same, i thought I was watching his twin, in
Samuelson, as far as ability to hit the net is concerned. He could
have scored about ten times last night.)
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