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Lauri Tarkkonen

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:26 am
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In Gerry writes:

>I can't believe people think this was about the money. Then again,
>there have been a lot of people with their hands over their ears just
>blathering on with their own nonsensical interpretations of Sundin's
>motivations throughout the saga.

>If it was about the money, $20M/2years sounds a heckuvalot better than
>$5M/1yr, and Vancouver has made it clear throughout that the full $20M/
>2 has always been on the table.

>The Canucks are a better team than the Rangers.

>They don't have to move any players to make room for Sundin.

>They'll still have enough cap room to add significant players before
>the deadline.

>It sounds like Sundin's decision was not based on money at all. In
>fact, he didn't even take the 2nd year of the contract, which could
>have negatively impacted the Canucks' ability to retain key impending-
>UFAs like the Sedins, Ohlund, etc.

>Good for Sundin, good for Canucks fans, I say.

>Now here's hoping he rips it up for them and helps put them in the Cup
>finals.

>l8r,
>Gerry

I fully second your statements. To blame Sunding of being greedy shows
total ignorance of the process and the facts. With San Jose getting
Blake on the defence and Marleau giving them depth beyond Thornton, I
would rather have the Cacucks in the finals against the Canadiens.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:27 pm
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"Nitram" wrote:

>If it was just for the money he would have signed a 2 year contract.

And he wouldn't have signed for 8.6 mill instead of the 10 mill the Canucks
offered.

Jim

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:27 pm
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Mad Ape wrote:

>Your Western arrogance will make you look silly when an Eastern team
>cleans up in the finals

It sure would. But it's not arrogance which formulated my opinion,
it's just my evaluation of the relative strengths of the top teams in
the two conferences.

Jim
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:24 am
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foamy wrote:
> But the hype about the Habs
> winning the cup this 100th year was really laughable.

> In fact, the Habs posturing that they somehow _deserve_
> the cup this year, and they actually have a shot, is quite funny--
not > a chance in hell.

How has the club postured that it "deserves" the cup? What facts show
the club says or advertises that it "deserves" the cup?
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:28 pm
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, freewheelin wrote:

>How has the club postured that it "deserves" the cup? What facts show
>the club says or advertises that it "deserves" the cup?

I misspoke. It's some fans and media who have been suggesting it would
be so good for the game and only fitting if the Canadien won this year.

Jim
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:25 pm
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In bombelly RemoveThis @sulet.ten (foamy) writes:

>In article
>, freewheelin wrote:

>>How has the club postured that it "deserves" the cup? What facts show
>>the club says or advertises that it "deserves" the cup?

>I misspoke. It's some fans and media who have been suggesting it would
>be so good for the game and only fitting if the Canadien won this year.

>Jim

I suppose the fans have all the right in the world to have any kind of
dreams they can imagine. For the Montrael fans to dream about a Stanley
cup is not so much out of place, they have won almost one quarter of
possible championships (24 in 100 years) when the next ones goe
somewhere aroun every tenth or less.

- Lauri Tarkkonen
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:46 am
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bombelly.DeleteThis@sulet.ten (foamy) wrote in

> In article ,
> Rob Dewar wrote:
>
>>I just want total commitment from players who are pulling in that kind
>>of cash. That wasn't Mats intention..he was going for max money and (I
>>think) less pressure than would come down on him in Montreal.
>
> Sorry Rob, but that's bullshit. If it was about money he would have
> signed July 1st. And thanks to Bettman's friggin league you folks have
> little exposure to the teams or culture of the west. I don't want to
> demean the aspirations of the Habs, I was as big a fan of Montreal as
> ever existed before the Canucks finally got their seat in the club.
> But the hype about the Habs winning the cup this 100th year was really
> laughable. The cup is going to a team out of the west. No one team
> comes close to Detroit or SJ. We all have hope, and anything can
> happen, but.......
>
> As far as less pressure ? Uh uh. There's as much pressure, media and
> otherwise in Vancouver as there is in Montreal. Canadians from coast
> to coast love their hockey and their team and Montreal has no monopoly
> on passion. In fact, the Habs posturing that they somehow _deserve_
> the cup this year, and they actually have a shot, is quite funny-- not
> a chance in hell.

I withdrawl my earlier comment about being glad the Canucks got Sundin
because they deserved him if this is the type of response we have to
endure from their fans in our group.

No Hab fan has acted as if they "deserve" the Cup, any moreso than other
fans. Get off your high horse.
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