V on possible Sundin linemates........

On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:35:54 GMT, bombelly.TakeThisOut@sulet.ten (foamy) wrote:

>" Honest to God, since Mats has been named (signed), I haven’t given it a
>second thought and nobody else has either,” added Vigneault. " When he
>gets here, we’re going to realize it. "
>
>*sigh*

I hope that's just babble for the press.

Kim
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"kim" wrote in message

> On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:35:54 GMT, bombelly RemoveThis @sulet.ten (foamy) wrote:
>
>>" Honest to God, since Mats has been named (signed), I haven't given it a
>>second thought and nobody else has either," added Vigneault. " When he
>>gets here, we're going to realize it. "
>>
>>*sigh*
>
> I hope that's just babble for the press.

That's exactly what it is, which is why we should disregard it. V doesn't
want to distract the team with Sundin hype, and is taking the high road. As
he should.

Josh
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Joshua wrote:
> That's exactly what it is, which is why we should disregard it. V doesn't
> want to distract the team with Sundin hype, and is taking the high road. As
> he should.
>
> Josh


Why's that? Because the team is doing so well right now? A distraction
could upset the winning chemistry that's currently on display?

Scott
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"Scotty" wrote in message

> Joshua wrote:
>> That's exactly what it is, which is why we should disregard it. V doesn't
>> want to distract the team with Sundin hype, and is taking the high road.
>> As he should.
>>
>> Josh
>
>
> Why's that? Because the team is doing so well right now? A distraction
> could upset the winning chemistry that's currently on display?

A distraction is a distraction, regardless of how well or poorly they are
playing.

Josh
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"foamy" wrote in message

>" Honest to God, since Mats has been named (signed), I haven't given it a
> second thought and nobody else has either," added Vigneault. " When he
> gets here, we're going to realize it. "
>
> *sigh*
>
> Jim

I understand what he's trying to say, but maybe he should try to make
himself sound less clueless when he does it...
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"foamy" wrote in message

> In article ,
> "Aytch" wrote:
>
>>
>>"foamy" wrote in message
>>
>>>" Honest to God, since Mats has been named (signed), I haven't given it a
>>> second thought and nobody else has either," added Vigneault. " When he
>>> gets here, we're going to realize it. "
>>>
>>> *sigh*
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>>I understand what he's trying to say, but maybe he should try to make
>>himself sound less clueless when he does it...
>
>
> 'splain it to me then please. Cause it's total bs imo on so many levels
> I'd like to whack him with a brick.

I'll try...

I think what he's trying to get across in this media blurb is he wants to
wait until Sundin is physically here and has at least had some time to
practice with some of the guys to establish who he wants to play with before
naming names.

Or at least I hope that's what he's trying to get across. From the way he
said it though, it just sounds like he's been too lazy to do any real work.

In all honesty I think what he really means is he's not promising the spot
to Wellwood even though Wellwood is the one guy most people would think of
first. They're both skilled players who, on this team at least, belong on
the top 2 lines, and they've played together and have had some chemistry.

But we've all seen Vigneault's obesssion with having Wellwood centering two
goons on the 4th line while Pyatt struggles between rotating duty on the 1st
and 2nd lines.
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In article ,
"Aytch" wrote:

>>>>"" added Vigneault. " When he
>>>> gets here, we're going to realize it. "

>I'll try...
>
>I think what he's trying to get across in this media blurb is he wants to
>wait until Sundin is physically here and has at least had some time to
>practice with some of the guys to establish who he wants to play with before
>naming names.

Heh, you're being far too generous and kind.

When he said, " .. Honest to God, since Mats has been named (signed),
I haven't given it a second thought and nobody else has either ", he's
either lying his ass off, or he's lying his ass off. By the way, how does
he know what other people have been thinking ?

If that is a true statement, that a coach wouldn't think of where a new player
would fit in, then he's scarier than I thought.

>Or at least I hope that's what he's trying to get across. From the way he
>said it though, it just sounds like he's been too lazy to do any real work.

How could you not think of it though, unless your line combos are really
pulled out of a hat.

>In all honesty I think what he really means is he's not promising the spot
>to Wellwood even though Wellwood is the one guy most people would think of
>first. They're both skilled players who, on this team at least, belong on
>the top 2 lines, and they've played together and have had some chemistry.

Judging on V's history here, I'd bet the farm he has no clue Wellwood and
Sundin played together, in fact, he probably doesn't know Wellwood even
played in the league. Probably thinks they got Wellwood from the Swedish
Elite League.

>But we've all seen Vigneault's obesssion with having Wellwood centering two
>goons on the 4th line while Pyatt struggles between rotating duty on the 1st
>and 2nd lines.

When he meets Sundin, he'll think, ahh he's big winger. Must be a grinder.
He looks like a guy we played against when I was coaching the Canadien to
an almost cup. Let's see, Hordie, Sundin and maybe we could trade for
that Cowan guy I think I heard of to play with them.

Jim
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let's say it for what it is. V looked like an friggin idiot with that
answer. then again he is an idiot.

He should have said he was considering certain players but would have
to wait and see once he gets here.

I still say Wellwood should not be playing on the 4th line........
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"Joshua" wrote in message

>
> "Scotty" wrote in message
>
>> Joshua wrote:
>>> That's exactly what it is, which is why we should disregard it. V
>>> doesn't want to distract the team with Sundin hype, and is taking the
>>> high road. As he should.
>>>
>>> Josh
>>
>>
>> Why's that? Because the team is doing so well right now? A distraction
>> could upset the winning chemistry that's currently on display?
>
> A distraction is a distraction, regardless of how well or poorly they are
> playing.
>
> Josh
>

A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof.
And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.

-Jean Chretien
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db wrote:
>
> "Joshua" wrote in message
>
>>
>> A distraction is a distraction, regardless of how well or poorly they
>> are playing.
>>
>
> A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a
> proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.
>
> -Jean Chretien

A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.

Rudyard Kipling
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On Dec 28, 4:41 pm, bombe... RemoveThis @sulet.ten (foamy) wrote:
> In article ,
> "Floats in Water" wrote:
>
> >Especially when our top two lines still need a finisher that fits in with
> >them.  Wellwood can play with Demitra and/or with the twins.  No one else
> >can play with both (sudb) and contribute nearly as effectively.
>
> >I don't know why V isn't realising it.
>
> I was listening to a Toronto guy on sportsnet and he was saying he
> couldn't wait to see Wellwood and Sundin together. They apparently
> had great chemistry.
>
> He said Sundin playing left wing, played some of his best hockey
> with Wellwood.
>
> Of course V wouldn't know that, or bother to find out.
>
> Jim

Well if thats the case they are doomed never to play on the same
line....unless Sundin goes to the 4th line, and with V that is
possible!
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In article <2efee96f-3255-479f-889c-ff0080ac1835
@s14g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, Jammers
wrote:


>I still say Wellwood should not be playing on the 4th line........

It makes no sense to me either. It seems as if V thinks Wellwood is
only a PP player and wants to keep his even strength ice time down.

Only Hordie and Brown have less total ice time, average ice time per
game, even strength ice time and average even strength ice time per
game.

Only Daniel, Raymond and Ohlund have a better plus/minus, so I don't
know why he'd think he's a liability 5 on 5.

Actually I think I do know why. Size. You got to be tough to play 5 on 5
hockey. You have to run around making noise crashing the boards
like a crazed banshee. It's no time for a small skilled player eh. Pffft on V.

Jim
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"foamy" wrote in message

> In article <2efee96f-3255-479f-889c-ff0080ac1835
> @s14g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, Jammers
> wrote:
>
>
>>I still say Wellwood should not be playing on the 4th line........
>
> It makes no sense to me either. It seems as if V thinks Wellwood is
> only a PP player and wants to keep his even strength ice time down.
>
> Only Hordie and Brown have less total ice time, average ice time per
> game, even strength ice time and average even strength ice time per
> game.
>
> Only Daniel, Raymond and Ohlund have a better plus/minus, so I don't
> know why he'd think he's a liability 5 on 5.
>
> Actually I think I do know why. Size. You got to be tough to play 5 on 5
> hockey. You have to run around making noise crashing the boards
> like a crazed banshee. It's no time for a small skilled player eh. Pffft
> on V.
>
> Jim

Especially when our top two lines still need a finisher that fits in with
them. Wellwood can play with Demitra and/or with the twins. No one else
can play with both (sudb) and contribute nearly as effectively.

I don't know why V isn't realising it.

Bob
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