TSN's power ranking

On Jan 9, 12:04 am, Snorkelson MacBurp
wrote:
> FWIW, while there are teams with fewer points, the Leafs are in the
> cellar according to the TSN power rankings.
>
> ..and I quote:
>
> " With no regulation-time wins in the last ten games, and a goaltending
> situation being handled by Andrew Raycroft and Scott Clemmensen, the
> Leafs really can't get much worse, can they?"
>
> http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?fid=549

640 hit on that - right now is the operative; and that's where Watters
puts them as well. Add to that the last stretch of 10 games; Watters
said they needed 14, pulled in 10, and as of 6 p.m. they were 8 behind
Montreal instead of 4 - the goose-cooked light was either on or
flickering.
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On Jan 9, 7:33 pm, Snorkelson MacBurp
wrote:
> owl wrote:
> > On Jan 9, 12:04 am, Snorkelson MacBurp
> > wrote:
> >> FWIW, while there are teams with fewer points, the Leafs are in the
> >> cellar according to the TSN power rankings.
>
> >> ..and I quote:
>
> >> " With no regulation-time wins in the last ten games, and a goaltending
> >> situation being handled by Andrew Raycroft and Scott Clemmensen, the
> >> Leafs really can't get much worse, can they?"
>
> >>http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?fid=549
>
> > 640 hit on that - right now is the operative; and that's where Watters
> > puts them as well. Add to that the last stretch of 10 games; Watters
> > said they needed 14, pulled in 10, and as of 6 p.m. they were 8 behind
> > Montreal instead of 4 - the goose-cooked light was either on or
> > flickering.

> This shitty team is finally starting to get to me.

Starting?

Sportsnet ran a poll today and the voting was 89% in favour of
writing the season off.

It has been a frustrating year to watch the Leafs. 3rd year of
flopping, everyone but O'Neil back. Another gouge trade for another
goalie. A phantom 'system' and a shuffle that made the PQuinn years
look simple.

>The Leafs are one of,
> if not the flagship franchise in the league. We as fans should get
> regular final four finishes in the playoffs. What those ultra-maroons in
> the corner offices have done is a complete disgrace.

Unfortunately, sports doesn't owe its fans anything. Otherwise the
Cubs would have a World Series and the Leafs would have a Cup.

The tilt of things gone wrong to things done right is so tilted, it's
hard to even sort out 'the one' or the 'the five' isn't it?
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owl wrote:
> On Jan 9, 12:04 am, Snorkelson MacBurp
> wrote:
>> FWIW, while there are teams with fewer points, the Leafs are in the
>> cellar according to the TSN power rankings.
>>
>> ..and I quote:
>>
>> " With no regulation-time wins in the last ten games, and a goaltending
>> situation being handled by Andrew Raycroft and Scott Clemmensen, the
>> Leafs really can't get much worse, can they?"
>>
>> http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?fid=549
>
> 640 hit on that - right now is the operative; and that's where Watters
> puts them as well. Add to that the last stretch of 10 games; Watters
> said they needed 14, pulled in 10, and as of 6 p.m. they were 8 behind
> Montreal instead of 4 - the goose-cooked light was either on or
> flickering.

This shitty team is finally starting to get to me. The Leafs are one of,
if not the flagship franchise in the league. We as fans should get
regular final four finishes in the playoffs. What those ultra-maroons in
the corner offices have done is a complete disgrace.
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owl wrote:
> On Jan 9, 7:33 pm, Snorkelson MacBurp
> wrote:
>> owl wrote:
>>> On Jan 9, 12:04 am, Snorkelson MacBurp
>>> wrote:
>>>> FWIW, while there are teams with fewer points, the Leafs are in the
>>>> cellar according to the TSN power rankings.
>>>> ..and I quote:
>>>> " With no regulation-time wins in the last ten games, and a goaltending
>>>> situation being handled by Andrew Raycroft and Scott Clemmensen, the
>>>> Leafs really can't get much worse, can they?"
>>>> http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?fid=549
>>> 640 hit on that - right now is the operative; and that's where Watters
>>> puts them as well. Add to that the last stretch of 10 games; Watters
>>> said they needed 14, pulled in 10, and as of 6 p.m. they were 8 behind
>>> Montreal instead of 4 - the goose-cooked light was either on or
>>> flickering.
>
>> This shitty team is finally starting to get to me.
>
> Starting?
>
> Sportsnet ran a poll today and the voting was 89% in favour of
> writing the season off.
>
> It has been a frustrating year to watch the Leafs. 3rd year of
> flopping, everyone but O'Neil back. Another gouge trade for another
> goalie. A phantom 'system' and a shuffle that made the PQuinn years
> look simple.
>
>> The Leafs are one of,
>> if not the flagship franchise in the league. We as fans should get
>> regular final four finishes in the playoffs. What those ultra-maroons in
>> the corner offices have done is a complete disgrace.
>
> Unfortunately, sports doesn't owe its fans anything. Otherwise the
> Cubs would have a World Series and the Leafs would have a Cup.
>
> The tilt of things gone wrong to things done right is so tilted, it's
> hard to even sort out 'the one' or the 'the five' isn't it?

Toronto is the new Chicago...
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On Jan 9, 8:20 pm, Snorkelson MacBurp
wrote:
> owl wrote:
> > On Jan 9, 7:33 pm, Snorkelson MacBurp
> > wrote:
> >> owl wrote:
> >>> On Jan 9, 12:04 am, Snorkelson MacBurp
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> FWIW, while there are teams with fewer points, the Leafs are in the
> >>>> cellar according to the TSN power rankings.
> >>>> ..and I quote:
> >>>> " With no regulation-time wins in the last ten games, and a goaltending
> >>>> situation being handled by Andrew Raycroft and Scott Clemmensen, the
> >>>> Leafs really can't get much worse, can they?"
> >>>>http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?fid=549
> >>> 640 hit on that - right now is the operative; and that's where Watters
> >>> puts them as well. Add to that the last stretch of 10 games; Watters
> >>> said they needed 14, pulled in 10, and as of 6 p.m. they were 8 behind
> >>> Montreal instead of 4 - the goose-cooked light was either on or
> >>> flickering.
>
> >> This shitty team is finally starting to get to me.
>
> > Starting?
>
> > Sportsnet ran a poll today and the voting was 89% in favour of
> > writing the season off.
>
> > It has been a frustrating year to watch the Leafs. 3rd year of
> > flopping, everyone but O'Neil back. Another gouge trade for another
> > goalie. A phantom 'system' and a shuffle that made the PQuinn years
> > look simple.
>
> >> The Leafs are one of,
> >> if not the flagship franchise in the league. We as fans should get
> >> regular final four finishes in the playoffs. What those ultra-maroons in
> >> the corner offices have done is a complete disgrace.
>
> > Unfortunately, sports doesn't owe its fans anything. Otherwise the
> > Cubs would have a World Series and the Leafs would have a Cup.
>
> > The tilt of things gone wrong to things done right is so tilted, it's
> > hard to even sort out 'the one' or the 'the five' isn't it?
>
> Toronto is the new Chicago...

There's some symmetry - watching the Blackhawks improvement and
competition against Montreal last night hinted at the diff ownership
could mean. Seeing Boudreau behind the bench tonight (and having no
explanation for the run they're on), hints at the diff coaching can
mean.

Great line by Milbury tonight - "Peddie should be selling popcorn."
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On Jan 9, 11:24 pm, "Preacher" wrote:
> "Snorkelson MacBurp" wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
> > owl wrote:
> > > On Jan 9, 12:04 am, Snorkelson MacBurp
> > > wrote:
> > >> FWIW, while there are teams with fewer points, the Leafs are in the
> > >> cellar according to the TSN power rankings.
>
> > >> ..and I quote:
>
> > >> " With no regulation-time wins in the last ten games, and a goaltending
> > >> situation being handled by Andrew Raycroft and Scott Clemmensen, the
> > >> Leafs really can't get much worse, can they?"
>
> > >>http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?fid=549
>
> > > 640 hit on that - right now is the operative; and that's where Watters
> > > puts them as well. Add to that the last stretch of 10 games; Watters
> > > said they needed 14, pulled in 10, and as of 6 p.m. they were 8 behind
> > > Montreal instead of 4 - the goose-cooked light was either on or
> > > flickering.
>
> > This shitty team is finally starting to get to me. The Leafs are one of,
> > if not the flagship franchise in the league. We as fans should get
> > regular final four finishes in the playoffs. What those ultra-maroons in
> > the corner offices have done is a complete disgrace.
>
> What makes you think that Toronto fans and the Leafs deserve a final four
> appearance every year? We Habs fans don't expect it, and if anyone we
> should feel that way. That's the Leaf fan "arrogance" that gets to the rest
> of us hockey fans all the time.
>
> The Leafs are currently paying for all the youth traded away to get shots at
> the Cup in the early 2000's, as should be expected. The calls for JFJ's
> head are IMHO justified, because he's still trading youth/draft picks for a
> quick fix to just reach the playoffs, and not to make a serious run at the
> Cup. He should be focussing on rebuilding.
>
> EVERY team has upswings and downswings, how on earth can you justify that
> statement?
>
> Steve

He doesn't have to - He posted 'regularly', not 'every year'. There
is no justification for the rest of your post ... altho it does have
that consistent aroma to it.
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"Snorkelson MacBurp" wrote in message

> owl wrote:
> > On Jan 9, 12:04 am, Snorkelson MacBurp
> > wrote:
> >> FWIW, while there are teams with fewer points, the Leafs are in the
> >> cellar according to the TSN power rankings.
> >>
> >> ..and I quote:
> >>
> >> " With no regulation-time wins in the last ten games, and a goaltending
> >> situation being handled by Andrew Raycroft and Scott Clemmensen, the
> >> Leafs really can't get much worse, can they?"
> >>
> >> http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?fid=549
> >
> > 640 hit on that - right now is the operative; and that's where Watters
> > puts them as well. Add to that the last stretch of 10 games; Watters
> > said they needed 14, pulled in 10, and as of 6 p.m. they were 8 behind
> > Montreal instead of 4 - the goose-cooked light was either on or
> > flickering.
>
> This shitty team is finally starting to get to me. The Leafs are one of,
> if not the flagship franchise in the league. We as fans should get
> regular final four finishes in the playoffs. What those ultra-maroons in
> the corner offices have done is a complete disgrace.

What makes you think that Toronto fans and the Leafs deserve a final four
appearance every year? We Habs fans don't expect it, and if anyone we
should feel that way. That's the Leaf fan "arrogance" that gets to the rest
of us hockey fans all the time.

The Leafs are currently paying for all the youth traded away to get shots at
the Cup in the early 2000's, as should be expected. The calls for JFJ's
head are IMHO justified, because he's still trading youth/draft picks for a
quick fix to just reach the playoffs, and not to make a serious run at the
Cup. He should be focussing on rebuilding.

EVERY team has upswings and downswings, how on earth can you justify that
statement?

Steve
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On Jan 10, 8:21 am, "Preacher" wrote:
> "Snorkelson MacBurp" wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
> > Preacher wrote:
> >> "Snorkelson MacBurp" wrote in message
> >>
> >>> owl wrote:
> >>>> On Jan 9, 12:04 am, Snorkelson MacBurp
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> FWIW, while there are teams with fewer points, the Leafs are in the
> >>>>> cellar according to the TSN power rankings.
>
> >>>>> ..and I quote:
>
> >>>>> " With no regulation-time wins in the last ten games, and a
> >>>>> goaltending
> >>>>> situation being handled by Andrew Raycroft and Scott Clemmensen, the
> >>>>> Leafs really can't get much worse, can they?"
>
> >>>>>http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?fid=549
> >>>> 640 hit on that - right now is the operative; and that's where Watters
> >>>> puts them as well. Add to that the last stretch of 10 games; Watters
> >>>> said they needed 14, pulled in 10, and as of 6 p.m. they were 8 behind
> >>>> Montreal instead of 4 - the goose-cooked light was either on or
> >>>> flickering.
> >>> This shitty team is finally starting to get to me. The Leafs are one of,
> >>> if not the flagship franchise in the league. We as fans should get
> >>> regular final four finishes in the playoffs. What those ultra-maroons in
> >>> the corner offices have done is a complete disgrace.
>
> >> What makes you think that Toronto fans and the Leafs deserve a final four
> >> appearance every year? We Habs fans don't expect it, and if anyone we
> >> should feel that way. That's the Leaf fan "arrogance" that gets to the
> >> rest
> >> of us hockey fans all the time.
>
> >> The Leafs are currently paying for all the youth traded away to get shots
> >> at
> >> the Cup in the early 2000's, as should be expected. The calls for JFJ's
> >> head are IMHO justified, because he's still trading youth/draft picks for
> >> a
> >> quick fix to just reach the playoffs, and not to make a serious run at
> >> the
> >> Cup. He should be focussing on rebuilding.
>
> >> EVERY team has upswings and downswings, how on earth can you justify that
> >> statement?
>
> >> Steve
>
> > Where did I say every year? Learn to read.
>
> You too huh? Looks like owl's ignore-the-content-focus-on-the-insignificant
> disease is spreading.
>
> Define regular, then. The Leafs have been to the final four 4 times since
> 1993, that's better than a 25% rate. By direct division they (and all other
> teams) should average a trip to the final four every 7-1/2 years (grade 10
> statistics), which is 13.3%. So they are doing WAY above average in that
> regard.
>
> Now you were complaining that they should, by no other reason than the fact
> they play in Toronto, get to the final four more "regularly", what exactly
> would you call "regular" then? Every other year? Every two of three years?
> Once every three years? No matter which case you choose, the statement is
> still arrogant and my point, which you and owl completely disregarded, is
> valid.
>
> Justify your statement. I don't think you can.
>
> Steve

Bad math followed by a shabby attempt to cover up your own inability
to read. Your arrogance is only exceeded by your flatulance.
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Preacher wrote:
> "Snorkelson MacBurp" wrote in message
>
>> owl wrote:
>>> On Jan 9, 12:04 am, Snorkelson MacBurp
>>> wrote:
>>>> FWIW, while there are teams with fewer points, the Leafs are in the
>>>> cellar according to the TSN power rankings.
>>>>
>>>> ..and I quote:
>>>>
>>>> " With no regulation-time wins in the last ten games, and a goaltending
>>>> situation being handled by Andrew Raycroft and Scott Clemmensen, the
>>>> Leafs really can't get much worse, can they?"
>>>>
>>>> http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?fid=549
>>> 640 hit on that - right now is the operative; and that's where Watters
>>> puts them as well. Add to that the last stretch of 10 games; Watters
>>> said they needed 14, pulled in 10, and as of 6 p.m. they were 8 behind
>>> Montreal instead of 4 - the goose-cooked light was either on or
>>> flickering.
>> This shitty team is finally starting to get to me. The Leafs are one of,
>> if not the flagship franchise in the league. We as fans should get
>> regular final four finishes in the playoffs. What those ultra-maroons in
>> the corner offices have done is a complete disgrace.
>
> What makes you think that Toronto fans and the Leafs deserve a final four
> appearance every year? We Habs fans don't expect it, and if anyone we
> should feel that way. That's the Leaf fan "arrogance" that gets to the rest
> of us hockey fans all the time.
>
> The Leafs are currently paying for all the youth traded away to get shots at
> the Cup in the early 2000's, as should be expected. The calls for JFJ's
> head are IMHO justified, because he's still trading youth/draft picks for a
> quick fix to just reach the playoffs, and not to make a serious run at the
> Cup. He should be focussing on rebuilding.
>
> EVERY team has upswings and downswings, how on earth can you justify that
> statement?
>
> Steve
>
>

Where did I say every year? Learn to read.
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On Jan 10, 10:10 am, "Preacher" wrote:

> > Bad math followed by a shabby attempt to cover up your own inability
> > to read. Your arrogance is only exceeded by your flatulance.

> WOW. You just keep proving my point, doofus.

Nah, you keep proving you read until you find enough material for your
next fictional post.

> Lemme help.

No need. The math backup came after you failed reading. You started
with every, and then tried airethmatic to say 25% was someone else's
number.

> Enjoy grade 4.

You won't know until you get there.
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"Snorkelson MacBurp" wrote in message

> Preacher wrote:
>> "Snorkelson MacBurp" wrote in message
>>
>>> owl wrote:
>>>> On Jan 9, 12:04 am, Snorkelson MacBurp
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> FWIW, while there are teams with fewer points, the Leafs are in the
>>>>> cellar according to the TSN power rankings.
>>>>>
>>>>> ..and I quote:
>>>>>
>>>>> " With no regulation-time wins in the last ten games, and a
>>>>> goaltending
>>>>> situation being handled by Andrew Raycroft and Scott Clemmensen, the
>>>>> Leafs really can't get much worse, can they?"
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?fid=549
>>>> 640 hit on that - right now is the operative; and that's where Watters
>>>> puts them as well. Add to that the last stretch of 10 games; Watters
>>>> said they needed 14, pulled in 10, and as of 6 p.m. they were 8 behind
>>>> Montreal instead of 4 - the goose-cooked light was either on or
>>>> flickering.
>>> This shitty team is finally starting to get to me. The Leafs are one of,
>>> if not the flagship franchise in the league. We as fans should get
>>> regular final four finishes in the playoffs. What those ultra-maroons in
>>> the corner offices have done is a complete disgrace.
>>
>> What makes you think that Toronto fans and the Leafs deserve a final four
>> appearance every year? We Habs fans don't expect it, and if anyone we
>> should feel that way. That's the Leaf fan "arrogance" that gets to the
>> rest
>> of us hockey fans all the time.
>>
>> The Leafs are currently paying for all the youth traded away to get shots
>> at
>> the Cup in the early 2000's, as should be expected. The calls for JFJ's
>> head are IMHO justified, because he's still trading youth/draft picks for
>> a
>> quick fix to just reach the playoffs, and not to make a serious run at
>> the
>> Cup. He should be focussing on rebuilding.
>>
>> EVERY team has upswings and downswings, how on earth can you justify that
>> statement?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>
> Where did I say every year? Learn to read.

You too huh? Looks like owl's ignore-the-content-focus-on-the-insignificant
disease is spreading.

Define regular, then. The Leafs have been to the final four 4 times since
1993, that's better than a 25% rate. By direct division they (and all other
teams) should average a trip to the final four every 7-1/2 years (grade 10
statistics), which is 13.3%. So they are doing WAY above average in that
regard.

Now you were complaining that they should, by no other reason than the fact
they play in Toronto, get to the final four more "regularly", what exactly
would you call "regular" then? Every other year? Every two of three years?
Once every three years? No matter which case you choose, the statement is
still arrogant and my point, which you and owl completely disregarded, is
valid.

Justify your statement. I don't think you can.

Steve
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"owl" wrote in message

> On Jan 10, 8:21 am, "Preacher" wrote:
>> "Snorkelson MacBurp" wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Preacher wrote:
>> >> "Snorkelson MacBurp" wrote in message
>> >>
>> >>> owl wrote:
>> >>>> On Jan 9, 12:04 am, Snorkelson MacBurp
>> >>>>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> FWIW, while there are teams with fewer points, the Leafs are in the
>> >>>>> cellar according to the TSN power rankings.
>>
>> >>>>> ..and I quote:
>>
>> >>>>> " With no regulation-time wins in the last ten games, and a
>> >>>>> goaltending
>> >>>>> situation being handled by Andrew Raycroft and Scott Clemmensen,
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> Leafs really can't get much worse, can they?"
>>
>> >>>>>http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?fid=549
>> >>>> 640 hit on that - right now is the operative; and that's where
>> >>>> Watters
>> >>>> puts them as well. Add to that the last stretch of 10 games;
>> >>>> Watters
>> >>>> said they needed 14, pulled in 10, and as of 6 p.m. they were 8
>> >>>> behind
>> >>>> Montreal instead of 4 - the goose-cooked light was either on or
>> >>>> flickering.
>> >>> This shitty team is finally starting to get to me. The Leafs are one
>> >>> of,
>> >>> if not the flagship franchise in the league. We as fans should get
>> >>> regular final four finishes in the playoffs. What those ultra-maroons
>> >>> in
>> >>> the corner offices have done is a complete disgrace.
>>
>> >> What makes you think that Toronto fans and the Leafs deserve a final
>> >> four
>> >> appearance every year? We Habs fans don't expect it, and if anyone we
>> >> should feel that way. That's the Leaf fan "arrogance" that gets to
>> >> the
>> >> rest
>> >> of us hockey fans all the time.
>>
>> >> The Leafs are currently paying for all the youth traded away to get
>> >> shots
>> >> at
>> >> the Cup in the early 2000's, as should be expected. The calls for
>> >> JFJ's
>> >> head are IMHO justified, because he's still trading youth/draft picks
>> >> for
>> >> a
>> >> quick fix to just reach the playoffs, and not to make a serious run at
>> >> the
>> >> Cup. He should be focussing on rebuilding.
>>
>> >> EVERY team has upswings and downswings, how on earth can you justify
>> >> that
>> >> statement?
>>
>> >> Steve
>>
>> > Where did I say every year? Learn to read.
>>
>> You too huh? Looks like owl's
>> ignore-the-content-focus-on-the-insignificant
>> disease is spreading.
>>
>> Define regular, then. The Leafs have been to the final four 4 times
>> since
>> 1993, that's better than a 25% rate. By direct division they (and all
>> other
>> teams) should average a trip to the final four every 7-1/2 years (grade
>> 10
>> statistics), which is 13.3%. So they are doing WAY above average in that
>> regard.
>>
>> Now you were complaining that they should, by no other reason than the
>> fact
>> they play in Toronto, get to the final four more "regularly", what
>> exactly
>> would you call "regular" then? Every other year? Every two of three
>> years?
>> Once every three years? No matter which case you choose, the statement
>> is
>> still arrogant and my point, which you and owl completely disregarded, is
>> valid.
>>
>> Justify your statement. I don't think you can.
>>
>> Steve
>
> Bad math followed by a shabby attempt to cover up your own inability
> to read. Your arrogance is only exceeded by your flatulance.

WOW. You just keep proving my point, doofus.

Lemme help.

2007-1993 = 14 years (+1 inclusive, so 15 years)
4/15 = 26.67%, 26.67% > 25%
4/30 = 1/7.5 = 13.33%, 26.67>>13.33

Enjoy grade 4.

Steve
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On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 23:24:58 -0500, "Preacher"
proclaimed:

>
>What makes you think that Toronto fans and the Leafs deserve a final four
>appearance every year? We Habs fans don't expect it, and if anyone we
>should feel that way. That's the Leaf fan "arrogance" that gets to the rest
>of us hockey fans all the time.


Yeah Habs fans aren't arrogant at all. If a French player chooses to
sign with a team other than Montreal they boo him for the rest of his
career just because their feelings have been hurt. How mature is
that?

Adam.
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