Tortorella

Marty <martytest2004.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> With the exception of a few terrible GM's, most are
> relatively the same, with the difference being luck and
> circumstance.

All the "GMs" in this group are exceptional students of the
game, their judgement never falters, and the NHL would be a
far better place if they just put us in charge for a while :-)

Paul
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Paul <pg DeleteThis @expertcan.net> wrote in news:Xns9AB5C3C267438paulgexpertcanmore@
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> Marty <martytest2004 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9AB5D9C8E541Bmartytest2004hotmail@127.0.0.1:
>
>> With the exception of a few terrible GM's, most are
>> relatively the same, with the difference being luck and
>> circumstance.
>
> All the "GMs" in this group are exceptional students of the
> game, their judgement never falters, and the NHL would be a
> far better place if they just put us in charge for a while :-)
>
> Paul
>

Paul...gotta ask...wtf is your point?

Was Gainey an idiot the season before when the Habs missed the play-offs?
Was he a genius when they finished first this season? Was he an idiot
again when they failed in the play-offs because of goaltending?

Or do we, as a whole, make too much of a GM's accomplishmensts based on a
small period of time?

On a day-to-day basis, during the season, I realize it's easy to make too
make too much or too little of a GM's moves. Heck, we're all human. But
the fact is the current Hab's are actually a product of so many GM's,
scouts and player development directors I realize every once in a while
it is almost silly how much emphasis we place on whomever the current GM
is. Unless he is being Houle or Milbury-like, trading away great assets
for almost nothing, most Gm's are capable, and their relative success is
based that basic skill + luck one way or another.I mean really, who is
Pittsburgh's GM? Who cares? You draft Malkin and Crosby first, you're not
a genius, you just were right place at right time. Us fans, us stupid,
know-nothing fans...or as you sarcastically put it Paul...us "exceptional
students of the game", would have made the exact same picks!

Surround yourself with a good staff, don't panic, slowly seek out trades
from desperate GM's and cross your fingers. That's a good GM. You me and
the lamp post could do 3 or 4 with a little dilligence. The only thing we
would fail at is finding good people to surround us. Hockey men who've
been in the game, worked the system, earned respect, know who to surround
themselves with, and draw those people to them. Made the right friends. I
suspect Gainey has that. But other than that, I'm not so sure many GM's
really are worth millions more than the average hockey fan. It doesn't
take a hockey genius to know Markov is better than Cullimore. Your paying
for their contacts in the hockey world as much, or more, than their
ability to evaluate talent. Think I'm wrong? Re-think all the terrible
high draft picks, and wonder if being labelled a hockey genius isn't
really as much about luck and a good staff that can minimize the big
mistakes as anything else. Perhaps Milbury's biggest mistake was his
closest adviser was a "yes" man instead of a solid hockey guy who would
have had the guts to say "whoa, wtf, don't make that trade!". :)

Marty
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Marty <martytest2004.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Paul <pg.DeleteThis@expertcan.net> wrote in
> news:Xns9AB5C3C267438paulgexpertcanmore@ 199.185.223.74:
>
>> Marty <martytest2004.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:Xns9AB5D9C8E541Bmartytest2004hotmail@127.0.0.1:
>>
>>> With the exception of a few terrible GM's, most are
>>> relatively the same, with the difference being luck and
>>> circumstance.
>>
>> All the "GMs" in this group are exceptional students of
>> the game, their judgement never falters, and the NHL would
>> be a far better place if they just put us in charge for a
>> while :-)
>>
>> Paul
>>
>
> Paul...gotta ask...wtf is your point?

Whoa, Marty - I know it's slow in here but that's a bit of an
overreaction. I was simply making a little joke about the
tendency of most of the folks in this newsgroup to act as if
they were GMs with better knowledge/insights than the guys who
actually have full information and who have to face the
consequences - positive and negative - of their decisions.
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