you got buffalo

"Jefferson N. Glapski" <OOHAAHSABRES RemoveThis @THEWARPATH.com> wrote in message
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> Adam Prince wrote:
>> "Kenny Kool" <kennykool RemoveThis @webtv.net> wrote in message
>> news:19552-446A6D1E-7@storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net...
>>> adam im not gonna forget who you are after the sabres beat the
>>> hurricanes, we will throw 4 lines at you,something carolina
>>> cant,
>>
>> Really? The Canes don't throw out four lines? Oh Kenny, i think you
>> are watching some of that NASCAR, yeppers.
>>
>>> our defense is better,
>>
>> Your defense? You mean Buffalo's defense. Well if that is better,
>> and since your "pla" loves stats so much. Both teams have given up
>> 27 goals in the playoffs. Both teams have one shutout and because of
>> overtime minutes...the GAA is 2.35 to 2.37 in favor of Buffalo.
>
> Adjust for opponent. Ottawa was first and Philly 8th. Plus, Ottawa added
> Havlat. Montreal was 20th and NJ was 22nd. You have slightly worse stats
> against below average offenses. We have better stats against elite
> opponents.

What's your title with the Sabres organization?

Ottawa scored almost a goal per game more than NJ this year, and
> Montreal was outscored by Philly by .4 goals per game.
>
> You may think that .7 GPG is nothing, but in reality, it is the difference
> between the best and the average.


ah...the difference in the playoffs is .02 between the two teams. They have
identical records going in. No difference....the difference will be who
gets to four wins first. Pla, i'm sure you know that will be the only stats
that count.

>
>> You guys keep proving how evenly match both teams are in the series.
>> Thank you so much!
>>
>> our coach is better, and if your
>>> coach was a little smart miller would have played for team
>>> usa,who knows he could'nt do no worse than the bums they
>>> had in goal,
>>
>> Ripping on your own country...for shame....
>
> No, he's ripping someone who poorly represented his country. I guess
> politicians can't be criticized in your world?
>
>> Actually both coaches are highly respected so again a wash. C'mon
>> now...keep throwing those stats.
>
> Everything's a wash? You must be very surprised that not every series goes
> seven games. Of course, everything looks equal when you think Ottawa and
> NJ are equivalent offensive teams.

Pla, you aren't seeing what I am saying. Let me break it down for ya, pla.
Going in I believe that the teams are very evenly matched. Something you
won't even attempt discuss. Pla, it could be a four game sweep by the
Canes. Or a six game win by Buffalo. Pla, My point, and something you
choose to ignore, is taht both teams are very good, and it will be an
exciting and entertaining series.

Something that if you look outside the statbook you may see.

"Jefferson N. Glapski" <OOHAAHSABRES.RemoveThis@THEWARPATH.com> wrote in message
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> Adam Prince wrote:
>> "Jefferson N. Glapski" <OOHAAHSABRES.RemoveThis@THEWARPATH.com> wrote in message
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>>> Adam Prince wrote:
>>>> Jefferson N. Glapski wrote:
>>>>> Adam Prince wrote:
>>>>>> Jefferson N. Glapski wrote:
>>>>>>> Adam Prince wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Buffalo, based on the regular season, was a better team than
>>>>>>> Carolina. In the playoffs, you no longer get points for losses
>>>>>>> and there is no shootout. Take away the points given for those,
>>>>>>> and the standings look like this:
>>>>>>> 1. Ottawa 102
>>>>>>> 2. Buffalo 99
>>>>>>> 3. Carolina 96
>>>>>>> 4. Philadelphia 86
>>>>>>> 5. New Jersey 83
>>>>>>> 6. NY Rangers 81
>>>>>>> T7. Tampa Bay 80
>>>>>>> T7. Montreal 80
>>>>>>> 9. Toronto 79
>>>>>>> 10. Atlanta 77
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice stats, did that count in the final standings, did that have
>>>>>> any effect on the seedings for home ice?
>>>>>
>>>>> Check out the Sabres record as a road team in the playoffs.
>>>>
>>>> But you didn't answer my question. Did those stats you gave me have
>>>> any bearing on the final outcome of the regular season or who has
>>>> home ice in the playoffs?
>>
>>> Yes, it did. Do you think that regulation wins and losses, OT wins
>>> and shootout losses didn't contribute?
>>
>> Pla, but those stats you gave me weren't the final season stats. Pla,
>> c'mon.you know hockey. I'm still curious in how those numbers are
>> important to this series or the seeding in the series.
>
> Yes, they are. You can't be this dense. Or, perhaps you are. How are they
> important to this series? You don't get points for shootouts or for losses
> in the playoffs. Take that artificiality away, and the Sabres are a better
> ranked team.

And you are certain of that how? Still hasn't ansered my question though.

>
> Seeding? I never said it did. Why do you think that is relevant?

Well obviously from what you said Buffalo deserves the higher seed. But
keep the spin going. Pla, you have become a pro in five years.

>
>>>> As for road and home playoff records:
>>>>
>>>> Carolina Home: 4-2 Away: 4-1
>>>> Buffalo: Home: 4-1 Away: 4-2
>>>>
>>>> Wow certainly looks equal to me. So again what is your point.
>>>
>>> My point, now, is that you are ignoring the stats I've posted,
>>> because you have no answer. Fine. No wonder NASCAR appeals to you.
>>
>> Yes...you are continually proving how evenly matched this series is.
>> You're doing a great job! Thanks again!
>
> Then why are you deleting my stats?

I have...hey you said look at the Sabres road playoff record...look up I
gave them to you..and schazam! the canes have a better record.

>
>>>>>>> Then consider that Carolina played in a much weaker division than
>>>>>>> Carolina.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And then consider that Miller's .914 save percentage during the
>>>>>>> regular season will be going up against Ward's .882 save
>>>>>>> percentage. He may have been hot against NJ, but there's a reason
>>>>>>> he didn't start at the outset of the playoffs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, there are numerous reasons. First and more importantly,
>>>>>> Gerber was penciled as teh number one starter throughout the
>>>>>> season. Just as Miller, who is a great goaltender, was the
>>>>>> number one starter with the exception of his injury.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why was Gerber the #1 starter? Because he was better.
>>>>
>>>> Actually for a few reasons. One he was the #1 going in where Ward
>>>> the team was up front and said he would be their planned number one
>>>> in about two years. THe team decided to play Gerber most of the
>>>> season. Ward played pretty well. He had a shaky period in
>>>> mid-season. But the franchise does see them as their startign
>>>> goaltender in the next two years. It is quite possible he is know
>>>> the #1 for enxt year.
>>>
>>> Gerber was the starter because he was better, and then he
>>> self-destructed.
>>
>> Ah spin spin spin. Gerber has had a stronger regular season. They
>> are pretty much equal.
>
> They aren't equal in any sense, unless you are numerically illiterate.
> Gerber had a .906 save percentage, Ward, .882. So Gerber lets on in every
> 10.64 shots, while Ward lets on in every 8.47 shots. That is dramatically
> different. Ward's hot right now, but that's just temporary.

And you can predict the future too? you just agreed that the regular season
has no implication on the eventual outcome...so what's the deal? Heck why
even play the series, pla.


>
>>>> And hell Ward has been better than Gerber in the playoffs...again,
>>>> as you know, the playoffs wash everything.
>>>
>>> No, they don't. Did the playoffs wipe out Erik Cole's injury? Nope.
>>
>> Wipe out stats when you actually look at players are playing....c'mon
>> pla. You know all about that.
>
> You don't wipe out the stats. Some players, like Erik Cole, become much
> more valuable in the playoffs. Other players, like Doug Weight, disappear.
> But that is relative to their baseline regular season.

Weight disappered?...You have watched this year's playoffs right? Or too
busy looking in the stat book?


>
>>>>>> Finally...if you are saying the stats that favor Carolina are
>>>>>> unimportant...aren't the stats that you give that favor Buffalo,
>>>>>> like above, just as irrelevant.
>>>>>
>>>>> What stats have you posted, besides nothing?
>>>>
>>>> Correct (with the exception of the season series outcome) which
>>>> thank you for proving my point that stats don't mean anything vs.
>>>> the final outcome of this series.
>>>
>>> Sure they do. You're just ignoring the obvious.
>>
>> If the obvious is that the se two teams are very evenly
>> matched...then by golly I msut be paying attention because you
>> continuously prove it. Pla, you're awesome with these stats.
>
> So that's why you delete the stats? You must be a religious man.

I haven't deleted stats. In fact...i've kept your stats with stats of the
Canes that show the same thing. You obviously have ignored those. Carolina
has a better road record than buffalo in the playoffs....c'mon see through
it...the teams are very evenly matched...but keep throwing stats stats stats
out. Hell the series shouldn't even be played.

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>
>>> Fact is, Ruff is the best playoff coach in the NHL, and his record is
>>> substantially better in the post season. No different than ascribing
>>> the same attributes to a Claude Lemieux or Chris Drury.
>>
>> If Ruff is...how come he hasn't won a Championship yet in his eight
>> years. I thought Championships were the measureof a great
>> coach....after all the stats say so.
>
> We weren't legitimately beaten the last time we were in the Cup. And the
> 8th year isn't over yet.

What about Kasparitis...i can tell that really stings...ouch ouch ouch...did
you get ointment for that sting? I hope it didn't hurt as much as you make
it out to be.