choke

"Danny M" <danmen DeleteThis @videotron.ca> wrote in message
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> chokechokechokechokechokechoke

Oh that's clever. I'm sure no one thought of that. Or at least, if they did,
they had more class than you.

To choke Ottawa would have had to be a considerably better team. I don't see
any evidence of that. This is not that great a team, and I never had much
hope for them in the playoffs. In fact, I'm really surprised they even made
it to the finals. They shouldn't have. They didn't have the goaltending and
the multiple lines. They just aren't that good. Compared to last year's
team - when they had Hasek playing so well in the first half, and Chara
clearing the net, and Havlet doing his thing - that was a team that should
have taken the cup - if it weren't for Hasek's back. This year - if Gerber
hadn't been a disaster, and they'd found another high scoring line - well
who knows. But they didn't. And somehow their one big line got them all the
way to the finals. People should feel lucky they made it this far.
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Albert Brooks <bingo DeleteThis @isus.ca> wrote:

> To choke Ottawa would have had to be a considerably better team. I
> don't see

The Ottawas should have been last night. They were at home and
Anaheim was without their best player.

> any evidence of that. This is not that great a team, and I never
> had much hope for them in the playoffs. In fact, I'm really
> surprised they even made it to the finals. They shouldn't have.

Jumping off already, eh?

> They didn't have the goaltending and
> the multiple lines.

Emery has been as good as anyone else in this playoff. And their
top three players are leading the league in scoring.

> They just aren't that good. Compared to last year's team - when
> they had Hasek playing so well in the first half, and Chara
> clearing the net, and Havlet doing his thing - that was a team
> that should have taken the cup - if it weren't for Hasek's back.

Since they made it to the final, the team is better this year than
last, by definition.

> This year - if Gerber hadn't been a disaster, and they'd found
> another high scoring line - well who knows. But they didn't. And
> somehow their one big line got them all the way to the finals.
> People should feel lucky they made it this far.

There is no such thing as luck. The Ottawas record reflects their
play, by definition. In sport, how well a team plays is reflected
only by the final score.

81 years. And counting.

cordially, as always,

rm
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On Jun 4, 11:06 pm, Danny M <dan....DeleteThis@videotron.ca> wrote:
> chokechokechokechokechokechoke

Nope. Just losing to a team who happen to be playing a little better.
Sorta like what happens to the laffs all season long.
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On Jun 5, 9:03 am, r....TakeThisOut@biteme.org wrote:

> There is no such thing as luck.
Wrong.

>The Ottawas record reflects their play, by definition.
To a certain extent.

> In sport, how well a team plays is reflected only by the final score.
Totally idiotic.
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On Jun 5, 4:19 pm, scir....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>
> There IS no such thing as luck. Luck is a term that weak people apply
> to events in their lives when things go their way, or don't. A player
> scores three goals in one game, all of which take crazy bounces off of
> other players' legs; you say luck, while a sane and rational person
> says that, in each case, the puck deflected at the proper angle to
> fool the goalie and pass the goal line. Between luck and physics, I'll
> take the latter.
>

Did the player plan for the crazy bounces ? Didn't think so.
That's what sane and rational people call lucky bounces and what
argumentative twits like you and Roger seem to think is pure skill.
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On Jun 5, 4:08 pm, Lembo <Lemb....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> > There is no such thing as luck.
>
> Wrong.

There IS no such thing as luck. Luck is a term that weak people apply
to events in their lives when things go their way, or don't. A player
scores three goals in one game, all of which take crazy bounces off of
other players' legs; you say luck, while a sane and rational person
says that, in each case, the puck deflected at the proper angle to
fool the goalie and pass the goal line. Between luck and physics, I'll
take the latter.

> > In sport, how well a team plays is reflected only by the final score.
>
> Totally idiotic.

And totally accurate.
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On Jun 5, 9:03 am, r....DeleteThis@biteme.org wrote:
> Albert Brooks <b....DeleteThis@isus.ca> wrote:
> > To choke Ottawa would have had to be a considerably better team. I
> > don't see
>
> The Ottawas should have been last night. They were at home and
> Anaheim was without their best player.
>
> > any evidence of that. This is not that great a team, and I never
> > had much hope for them in the playoffs. In fact, I'm really
> > surprised they even made it to the finals. They shouldn't have.
>
> Jumping off already, eh?
>
> > They didn't have the goaltending and
> > the multiple lines.
>
> Emery has been as good as anyone else in this playoff. And their
> top three players are leading the league in scoring.
>
> > They just aren't that good. Compared to last year's team - when
> > they had Hasek playing so well in the first half, and Chara
> > clearing the net, and Havlet doing his thing - that was a team
> > that should have taken the cup - if it weren't for Hasek's back.
>
> Since they made it to the final, the team is better this year than
> last, by definition.
>
> > This year - if Gerber hadn't been a disaster, and they'd found
> > another high scoring line - well who knows. But they didn't. And
> > somehow their one big line got them all the way to the finals.
> > People should feel lucky they made it this far.
>
> There is no such thing as luck. The Ottawas record reflects their
> play, by definition. In sport, how well a team plays is reflected
> only by the final score.
>
> 81 years. And counting.
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm

It's not over yet. Not untill the cup is handed out.
Sens fans are so happy their team made it to the Stanley cup finals,
got to party and watch hockey right through the spring unlike the poor
leafs that did not make it again... At least we have a better team.
Better every year just like you stated unlike the leafs. Oh and to top
it of we have leaf fans hanging around Senators group. mmm I wonder
why? Oh yeah they did not make it in the playoffs again, in fact they
are getting worse every year. I feel for leaf fans... NOT.

There is a force on this planet called luck. I am so sorry you never
got to experience it.

Go sens...
Lily
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Lembo <Lembo27.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 4:19 pm, scir....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:

>> There IS no such thing as luck. Luck is a term that weak people apply
>> to events in their lives when things go their way, or don't. A player
>> scores three goals in one game, all of which take crazy bounces off of
>> other players' legs; you say luck, while a sane and rational person
>> says that, in each case, the puck deflected at the proper angle to
>> fool the goalie and pass the goal line. Between luck and physics, I'll
>> take the latter.

> Did the player plan for the crazy bounces ? Didn't think so.

If that is your criteria for defining "luck" then _everything_ is a
matter of luck, since even the planning process itself cannot be
"planned." And if everything is a matter of luck, then nothing is a
matter of luck.

> That's what sane and rational people call lucky bounces and what
> argumentative twits like you and Roger seem to think is pure skill.

No. Terms like "luck" are used to describe situations where we
don't have enough information to predict those events. But the
information is there and if we were able to read that information,
we would be able to predict anything. In fact, a religious person
would hold that everything is part of God's Plan and, as such,
nothing is a matter of luck as you would describe it.

cordially, as always,

rm
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