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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:32 pm
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Hello? Hello? Anyone here?

I came over from the Sens group to have a good argument about Avery.

Anyone? Buehler? Buehler? Anyone?

<Zone's brief visit to LA ends in disappointment>

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:32 pm
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On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 19:32:38 -0800, Zone wrote
(in message <OOSdnRnGv5BKjAzenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d RemoveThis @giganews.com>):

> Hello? Hello? Anyone here?
>
> I came over from the Sens group to have a good argument about Avery.
>
> Anyone? Buehler? Buehler? Anyone?
>
> <Zone's brief visit to LA ends in disappointment>
>
>

Yes? Avery should have taken out that di*k Hasek! Avery is the man everyone
wants to have on their team.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:52 pm
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Rick:
>Despite the extra penalties and all sorts of other clucks of
disapproval he elicits from others around the league, I think the
positives
far outweigh the negatives. One thing's for sure, he's helped put us
back
on the map! The Kings are one of the league's hottest tickets wherever
they
travel, and Avery's a big reason why.<

The thing that bothers me most about Avery is the increasing reports
that he makes racist remarks. I don't buy the idea that "French"
players are all pussies, which was implied by the language reportedly
used by Avery. Trash talking is definitely part of the game, but racist
and xenophobic (Francophobic?) language - most of which has been
ALLEGED; I have scant proof Avery actually mouths off in this manner -
seems out of bounds to me. I tend to think he's enough of a loudmouth
for the allegations to hold water. If he does this, I wish he'd cut it
out, but he probably won't. If other hockey fans have no problem with
racist trash talk, that's fine w/me. I just find it offensive and very
unsportsmanlike.

This is the problem I have with Avery. But he's our guy, and he
definitely has skills, and I think he's more an asset to the Kings than
a detriment. I love the way he digs and he has a wicked way of emerging
with the puck from behind the net in the attacking zone and centering
it to someone open for a one-timer.

Just wanted to qualify my stance on Avery.

-rmjon23 de Los Angeles
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:10 am
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"rmjon23" <rmjon23 RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message
news:1133650337.929429.195420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Rick:
>>Despite the extra penalties and all sorts of other clucks of
> disapproval he elicits from others around the league, I think the
> positives
> far outweigh the negatives. One thing's for sure, he's helped put us
> back
> on the map! The Kings are one of the league's hottest tickets wherever
> they
> travel, and Avery's a big reason why.<
>
> The thing that bothers me most about Avery is the increasing reports
> that he makes racist remarks. I don't buy the idea that "French"
> players are all pussies, which was implied by the language reportedly
> used by Avery. Trash talking is definitely part of the game, but racist
> and xenophobic (Francophobic?) language - most of which has been
> ALLEGED; I have scant proof Avery actually mouths off in this manner -
> seems out of bounds to me. I tend to think he's enough of a loudmouth
> for the allegations to hold water. If he does this, I wish he'd cut it
> out, but he probably won't. If other hockey fans have no problem with
> racist trash talk, that's fine w/me. I just find it offensive and very
> unsportsmanlike.
>
> This is the problem I have with Avery. But he's our guy, and he
> definitely has skills, and I think he's more an asset to the Kings than
> a detriment. I love the way he digs and he has a wicked way of emerging
> with the puck from behind the net in the attacking zone and centering
> it to someone open for a one-timer.
>
> Just wanted to qualify my stance on Avery.
>
> -rmjon23 de Los Angeles
>

Good points. The guy definitely lacks a filter between his brain and his
mouth. I'm almost tempted to call him the John Rocker of the NHL. He's
lucky that hockey remains pretty much under the radar in the American sports
landscape; otherwise, the media here would have roasted him alive by now.

Also can't help wondering how Avery's French Canadian teammates *really*
feel about him. They do seem to be standing solidly behind him, at least
publicly, to this point. Maybe he apologized to them privately, or at least
clarified his statement to their satisfaction. One thing's for sure: he's
got great chemistry on the ice with Eric Belanger, so I doubt there's really
a serious problem in the locker room.

Regarding the racism, George Laraque of Edmonton claimed Avery called him a
"monkey" on the ice during a preseason game, but none of his own teammates
backed him up on it, so I doubt that one actually took place. Not that I
would put it past Avery to say such a thing, mind you....

My guess is Avery is no more or less racist than the average NHL player or
the average American/Canadian citizen for that matter, but because he lacks
that politically correct filter, he could someday wind up embarrassing
himself far more seriously than he already has. I hope he learns at least
enough discipline to survive and thrive as a member of the Kings for many
years to come.

Rick
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 8:46 pm
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"At least he doesn't put his top scorer out for weeks! Flame on
drunkard. "

I figured you would have no response. You didn't disappoint.

Rob
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:56 pm
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:46:37 -0800, Rob wrote
(in message <1136090797.170451.60260.TakeThisOut@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):

> "At least he doesn't put his top scorer out for weeks! Flame on
> drunkard. "
>
> I figured you would have a great response. You didn't disappoint.
>
> Rob
>


Thanks!
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:40 pm
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:46:37 -0800, Rob wrote
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> "At least he doesn't put his top scorer out for weeks! Flame on
> drunkard. "

> I figured you would have no response. You didn't disappoint.


> Rob

>Thanks but I must admit to being a text-changing dweeb. I apologize.

No problem. Apology accepted.

Rob
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:19 am
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On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 14:40:13 -0800, Rob wrote
(in message <1136328013.443468.299050 DeleteThis @g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):

> On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:46:37 -0800, Rob wrote
> (in message <1136090797.170451.60... DeleteThis @g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):
>
>
>
>> "At least he doesn't put his top scorer out for weeks! Flame on
>> drunkard. "
>
>> I figured you would have no response. You didn't disappoint.
>
>
>> Rob
>
>> Thanks but I must admit to being a text-changing dweeb. I apologize.
>
> No problem. Apology accepted.
>
> Rob
>

monkey see monkey do
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8-2 Atlanta, ouch!
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:06 am
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Yes, ouch! But a few games do not a season make, or break. The Sens are
depleted right now. Better to get these games out of the way now. Last
time I checked we still led the pack.

Rob
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:11 pm
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Speaking of "Ouch", how 'bout them Sabres? ;o)

10-1Buffalo ....

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