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Tom

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(Msg. 31) Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:21 am
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Grande Mal wrote:
> De nada.
> I'm not sure that it's true, though.

Of course it's true. I saw it on usenet.

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:00 pm
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:57:38 -0400, pawn <pawn DeleteThis @porthouse.com> wrote:

>xpenenyx@earthlink.net wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:46:28 -0400, pawn <pawn DeleteThis @porthouse.com> wrote:
>>
>>> xpenenyx DeleteThis @earthlink.net wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:44:44 GMT, "Grande Mal" <ironwrkr DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
>>>> The only one's that are moving things are you two. First you Leaf
>>>> buddy points to the top scorers using one year as if it was
>>>> representative which clearly wasn't.
>>> First, your entire argument hinges on a decline in Canadian talent, so I
>>> think it's completely appropriate to show the latest numbers. Second,
>>> how about we average the last 10 seasons?
>>>
>>> 2006-2007: 8 of top 10 Canadian
>>> 2005-2006: 6 of 10
>>> 2003-2004: 4 of 10
>>> 2002-2003: 5 of 10
>>> 2001-2002: 5 of 10
I've already admitted the Top Ten is trending back Canadian. However
when you look at the Top Twenty it's an entirely different picture.
Now we have heard nary a peep out of you when it comes to the lowest
scorers. Why might that be?
>>
>> Oh now we are changing the standard again I see.
>
>No, you had a problem with it just being the "latest" numbers, so I
>tried to make you happy with the last 5 years. Pretty strange pattern
>for a Country whose talent is supposedly on the downswing.
>
>
>>> It was actually originally Canadian domination of Stanley Cup winners,
>>> which nobody on their right mind would argue (although you did). Say,
>>> why don't you post your European captain stats wrt Stanley Cup winners?
>>> LOL!
>> I did? Then you should have no problems coming up with the quotes with
>> google ids. I'll be waiting but won't be holding my breathe,
>
>You did what? In what twisted universe can any sentence in that
>paragraph be responded to with "I did"?
>
>>>> Ah, now you've bring the Americans into it. In case you aren't aware
>>>> of it hockey is #4 in the USA at most. That simply means that most of
>>>> the best athletes in USA don't play hockey.
>>> U.S. population in states that have a significant hockey following
>>> (there are probably more, but these can't be argued):
>>>
>>> Alaska 663,661
>>> Colorado 4,665,177
>>> Massachusetts 6,398,743
>>> Michigan 10,120,860
>>> Minnesota 5,132,799
>>> New York 19,254,630
>>> Pennsylvania 12,429,616
>>> --------------------------
>>> Total: 58.9M

What's the above got to do with anything?
>>>
>>> Canada's entire population, assuming we all fit the stereotype you
>>> probably assume: 33M
>>
>> So now you bringing Americans into the discussion to boost your ego.
>
>I didn't bring it in, I responded to your sentence above. HTH.
You brought in numbers that mean nothing.

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:02 pm
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:00:03 -0400, pawn <pawn.RemoveThis@porthouse.com> wrote:

>xpenenyx@earthlink.net wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:48:32 -0400, pawn <pawn.RemoveThis@porthouse.com> wrote:
>>
>>> xpenenyx.RemoveThis@earthlink.net wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:30:23 -0400, "Bushay" <bushay44.RemoveThis@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> World Championships
>>>>>> Men- Canada- gold- undefeated in tournament
>>>>>> Women-Canada- gold- undefeated in tournament
>>>>>> Juniors-Canada-gold-undefeated in tournament
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uh, maybe you mean the goal differential has been slipping?
>>>>> You seem to continue to talk about Women and Childrens hockey while were
>>>>> referring to the NHL. To which your ,again, clearly losing your grip.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes they certainly keep on grasping at straws.
>>> Children? You don't think our recent domination at the World Junior
>>> level is a significant indicator of Canada's present and foreseeable
>>> domination of hockey? Have you ever watched a World Junior tournament?
>>> It's a who's who of future NHLers.
>>>
>> You are so screwed up you don't even know who are replying to anymore.
>
>Uh...you might want to clean up your borderline criminally insane
>out-of-order posting style before throwing rocks. Either way, *you*
>backed up Bushay's argument about bringing children into the discussion.
> I have every right and cause to respond to you.

Whatever my posting style might be I still know who is posting what
and whom I'm replying too.
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:36 pm
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:09:30 -0400, pawn <pawn.DeleteThis@porthouse.com> wrote:

>xpenenyx@earthlink.net wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:29:25 -0400, pawn <pawn.DeleteThis@porthouse.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Without checking your numbers, this means even in the stat you finally
>>>>>> found to back your argument, 44% of the league's top scorers are Canadian.
>>>> That's right.
>>> Weird how the rest of that paragraph got omitted.
>> If it is weird you need to ask yourself why it was already edited
>> out.
>
>I already know why, Mr. Selective Argument.

That's interesting coming from one who constantly changes the
standards,
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:44 pm
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xpenenyx.RemoveThis@earthlink.net wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:57:38 -0400, pawn <pawn.RemoveThis@porthouse.com> wrote:
>
>> xpenenyx.RemoveThis@earthlink.net wrote:
> I've already admitted the Top Ten is trending back Canadian. However
> when you look at the Top Twenty it's an entirely different picture.
> Now we have heard nary a peep out of you when it comes to the lowest
> scorers. Why might that be?

Weird, because I remember addressing that in this very very thread.

>
> What's the above got to do with anything?

I don't know, I was responding to one of your pointless attempts to
railroad the actual issue.

>>> So now you bringing Americans into the discussion to boost your ego.
>> I didn't bring it in, I responded to your sentence above. HTH.
> You brought in numbers that mean nothing.

Then I did it in the appropriate forum.
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:45 pm
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xpenenyx.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:00:03 -0400, pawn <pawn.TakeThisOut@porthouse.com> wrote:
>
>> xpenenyx.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:48:32 -0400, pawn <pawn.TakeThisOut@porthouse.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> xpenenyx.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:30:23 -0400, "Bushay" <bushay44.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> World Championships
>>>>>>> Men- Canada- gold- undefeated in tournament
>>>>>>> Women-Canada- gold- undefeated in tournament
>>>>>>> Juniors-Canada-gold-undefeated in tournament
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uh, maybe you mean the goal differential has been slipping?
>>>>>> You seem to continue to talk about Women and Childrens hockey while were
>>>>>> referring to the NHL. To which your ,again, clearly losing your grip.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes they certainly keep on grasping at straws.
>>>> Children? You don't think our recent domination at the World Junior
>>>> level is a significant indicator of Canada's present and foreseeable
>>>> domination of hockey? Have you ever watched a World Junior tournament?
>>>> It's a who's who of future NHLers.
>>>>
>>> You are so screwed up you don't even know who are replying to anymore.
>> Uh...you might want to clean up your borderline criminally insane
>> out-of-order posting style before throwing rocks. Either way, *you*
>> backed up Bushay's argument about bringing children into the discussion.
>> I have every right and cause to respond to you.
>
> Whatever my posting style might be I still know who is posting what
> and whom I'm replying too.

I'm sure you do. Good luck with that.
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:33 pm
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"Freedom Elz" <mediadawg1.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sep 12, 10:47 am, xpene....TakeThisOut@earthlink.net wrote:
>> >> Well there is a developmental league in Canada called CFL. I might be
>> >> wrong but I don't believe they produce many NFLers.
>>
>> >The CFL is not a developmental league for the NFL, its older than the
>> >NFL
>> >for
>> >starters and it has different rules.
>>
>> Yes I know. OTOH it's where some (Warren Moon, etc)
>> go for awhile to try and work their way to the NFL.
>
> And Joe Theisman, Rockey Ismail, Jeff Garcia. Some NFLers come up
> liek Ricky Williams and totally bomb as well. Its a different game.
>
C'mon Elz, give Ricky a break with three downs how many times do they pass?
Not to mention, "The Ganga Nation" in TO is just too much for him to
handle....
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:36 pm
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:36:39 -0700, Freedom Elz
<mediadawg1 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 12, 10:47 am, xpene... DeleteThis @earthlink.net wrote:
>> >> Well there is a developmental league in Canada called CFL. I might be
>> >> wrong but I don't believe they produce many NFLers.
>>
>> >The CFL is not a developmental league for the NFL, its older than the NFL
>> >for
>> >starters and it has different rules.
>>
>> Yes I know. OTOH it's where some (Warren Moon, etc)
>> go for awhile to try and work their way to the NFL.
>
> And Joe Theisman, Rockey Ismail, Jeff Garcia. Some NFLers come up
>liek Ricky Williams and totally bomb as well. Its a different game.

Rockey Ismail? LOL Stick to something you know about moron. Oh..., I
guess that would be nothing...
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:31 am
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Freedom Elz wrote:
> On Sep 12, 10:47 am, xpene....TakeThisOut@earthlink.net wrote:
>>>> Well there is a developmental league in Canada called CFL. I might be
>>>> wrong but I don't believe they produce many NFLers.
>>> The CFL is not a developmental league for the NFL, its older than the NFL
>>> for
>>> starters and it has different rules.
>> Yes I know. OTOH it's where some (Warren Moon, etc)
>> go for awhile to try and work their way to the NFL.
>
> And Joe Theisman, Rockey Ismail, Jeff Garcia. Some NFLers come up
> liek Ricky Williams and totally bomb as well.

Ricky Williams is in Canadia because he got kicked out of the NFL for
smoking weed and not being productive. Charles Rogers because he liked
weed more than football.

You forgot Doug Flutie. And my personal favorite (besides Moon), Casey
Printers.

-Thomas
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:52 pm
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"Thomas" <noneman.RemoveThis@none.man> wrote in message
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> Freedom Elz wrote:
>> On Sep 12, 10:47 am, xpene....RemoveThis@earthlink.net wrote:
>>>>> Well there is a developmental league in Canada called CFL. I might be
>>>>> wrong but I don't believe they produce many NFLers.
>>>> The CFL is not a developmental league for the NFL, its older than the
>>>> NFL
>>>> for
>>>> starters and it has different rules.
>>> Yes I know. OTOH it's where some (Warren Moon, etc)
>>> go for awhile to try and work their way to the NFL.
>>
>> And Joe Theisman, Rockey Ismail, Jeff Garcia. Some NFLers come up
>> liek Ricky Williams and totally bomb as well.
>
> Ricky Williams is in Canadia because he got kicked out of the NFL for
> smoking weed and not being productive.

Yeah I know he was up here because he was suspended, but he bombed (no pun
intended).


>Charles Rogers because he liked weed more than football.

Charles Rogers hasn't signed a deal as far as I've heard and he isn't on
anyone's roster, I think
that was just his agent floating a balloon. I'd choose smoking weed over
playing pro football too,
but the money isn't nearly as for good smoking weed.


> You forgot Doug Flutie.

Flutie is unique int hat he came here after not beiong able to get a
starting job in the NFL,
excelled and then went back. The tandem of Flutie and Sapunjis in Calgary
was awesome.

His brother Darren also had a good career up here.


>And my personal favorite (besides Moon), Casey Printers.

Just signed with Hamilton, playing his first game of the year this weekend.
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:37 pm
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Freedom Elz wrote:
> "Thomas" <noneman.RemoveThis@none.man> wrote in message
> news:s_2dnURYDLOocXbbnZ2dnUVZ_tvinZ2d@wideopenwest.com...
>> Freedom Elz wrote:
>>> On Sep 12, 10:47 am, xpene....RemoveThis@earthlink.net wrote:
>>>>>> Well there is a developmental league in Canada called CFL. I might be
>>>>>> wrong but I don't believe they produce many NFLers.
>>>>> The CFL is not a developmental league for the NFL, its older than the
>>>>> NFL
>>>>> for
>>>>> starters and it has different rules.
>>>> Yes I know. OTOH it's where some (Warren Moon, etc)
>>>> go for awhile to try and work their way to the NFL.
>>> And Joe Theisman, Rockey Ismail, Jeff Garcia. Some NFLers come up
>>> liek Ricky Williams and totally bomb as well.
>> Ricky Williams is in Canadia because he got kicked out of the NFL for
>> smoking weed and not being productive.
>
> Yeah I know he was up here because he was suspended, but he bombed (no pun
> intended).

Probably was too high to figure out why the ball was so big and was
pissed that his team punted on 3rd down.

>
>
>> Charles Rogers because he liked weed more than football.
>
> Charles Rogers hasn't signed a deal as far as I've heard and he isn't on
> anyone's roster, I think
> that was just his agent floating a balloon. I'd choose smoking weed over
> playing pro football too,
> but the money isn't nearly as for good smoking weed.

Depends on who you are.

>
>
>> You forgot Doug Flutie.
>
> Flutie is unique int hat he came here after not beiong able to get a
> starting job in the NFL,

He was a starter in the USFL, then couldn't get a starting job with an
NFL team not because he wasn't good enough, but because he was labeled a
"scab" for crossing the picket line.

> excelled and then went back. The tandem of Flutie and Sapunjis in Calgary
> was awesome.
>
> His brother Darren also had a good career up here.

I know.

>
>
>> And my personal favorite (besides Moon), Casey Printers.
>
> Just signed with Hamilton, playing his first game of the year this weekend.

A shame. On HBO, they had a series on the 2007 KC Chiefs preseason, and
Printers was the last guy cut. He's got a bad attitude. He was being
cut, and he walked into the director of player personnel's office and
wanted to know why he wasn't starting.

-Thomas
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