Same feeling every time

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:54:41 GMT, "Nelson Lee"
<chemistry_83.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

>We'll
>be wondering next summer why the hell Gillis was hired to replace Nonis in
>the first place
I was wondering that the day it happened.
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In article <UPb7k.22446$Jx.10304@pd7urf1no>, "Big Time"
<bigtimegrizz-REMOVEFOR SPAM.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I always get excited leading up to the draft, and I always end up
>disappointed every time.
>
>A few years back, Kopitar fell into our laps and Nonis inexplicably took
>Bourdon when we were already loaded at that position.
>
>This year, Beach was ours for the taking and he takes Hodgson. Let's see,
>6'3 centre with a hard shot and a nasty streatk or a 5'10 centre with
>questionable speed but who was rated the most "intelligent" player on the
>team. Congratulations Gillis! You just drafted Brendan Morrison part deux.
>He really helped us win all those cups!
>
>I know that whenever the Canucks were having trouble scoring goals, I found
>myself often saying "you know, a player with more intelligence would have
>found a way to score". When the Canucks could barely must a shot in the
>general area of the net, I would have console myself by saying "A player
>with more character and integrity would have found a way to score".
>
>This team is almost smurf like outside of Taylor Pyatt. They have never had
>a big, mean centre who could both fight and score. Bertuzzi was the only
>player who was like that he played the wing. But no, same old BS every
>time. Drafting a player because of intangibles like "he played on a winner
>at every level" is absolutely retarded.
>
>Oh well. I guess now I get to look forward to a bunch of hype leading up to
>the FA period before the Canucks end up signing no one of consequence.
>Pavol Demitra, welcome to your new team.

I didn't snip so anyone who missed the original would get a chance to read it.

Right bloody on. Even if Hodgson turned out to be the greatest player
in the history of the game, it still would have been a terrible pick because
of the reasoning behind the pick.

I sure hope I'm wrong, but I can't help but think Gillis is a mile wide and a
1/4 inch deep, especially when it comes to the guys who really matter, the
guys who play the game.

Thumbs rating:

Off ice:
--keeping V.............................2 down
--keeping Tamby...................2 up
--keeping Bowness..............1 up / 1 down...up if he has no say on the
D system, down if it's his.
--firing rest.............................. 2 up
--hiring Walter........................ 2 up
--makingsmyldisappear...... 2 up
--delorme et al........................ 2 be determined
--mellanby hire ...................... 2 up
--keytothedeal.........................2 up
--Linden....................................2 down

On ice:
-- draft........................................2 down
-- Cammalleri...........................2 down
-- Jokinen.................................2 down
-- Morgan Clark.......................2 down....can you say nepotism ?

Do we see a pattern developing here ?

Jim
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On Jun 21, 1:57 pm, bombe....RemoveThis@sulet.ten (foamy) wrote:
> In article <UPb7k.22446$Jx.10304@pd7urf1no>, "Big Time"
>
>
>
> <bigtimegrizz-REMOVEFOR S....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >I always get excited leading up to the draft, and I always end up
> >disappointed every time.
>
> >A few years back, Kopitar fell into our laps and Nonis inexplicably took
> >Bourdon when we were already loaded at that position.
>
> >This year, Beach was ours for the taking and he takes Hodgson. Let's see,
> >6'3 centre with a hard shot and a nasty streatk or a 5'10 centre with
> >questionable speed but who was rated the most "intelligent" player on the
> >team. Congratulations Gillis! You just drafted Brendan Morrison part deux.
> >He really helped us win all those cups!
>
> >I know that whenever the Canucks were having trouble scoring goals, I found
> >myself often saying "you know, a player with more intelligence would have
> >found a way to score". When the Canucks could barely must a shot in the
> >general area of the net, I would have console myself by saying "A player
> >with more character and integrity would have found a way to score".
>
> >This team is almost smurf like outside of Taylor Pyatt. They have never had
> >a big, mean centre who could both fight and score. Bertuzzi was the only
> >player who was like that he played the wing. But no, same old BS every
> >time. Drafting a player because of intangibles like "he played on a winner
> >at every level" is absolutely retarded.
>
> >Oh well. I guess now I get to look forward to a bunch of hype leading up to
> >the FA period before the Canucks end up signing no one of consequence.
> >Pavol Demitra, welcome to your new team.
>
> I didn't snip so anyone who missed the original would get a chance to read it.
>
> Right bloody on. Even if Hodgson turned out to be the greatest player
> in the history of the game, it still would have been a terrible pick because
> of the reasoning behind the pick.
>
> I sure hope I'm wrong, but I can't help but think Gillis is a mile wide and a
> 1/4 inch deep, especially when it comes to the guys who really matter, the
> guys who play the game.
>
> Thumbs rating:
>
> Off ice:
> --keeping V.............................2 down
> --keeping Tamby...................2 up
> --keeping Bowness..............1 up / 1 down...up if he has no say on the
> D system, down if it's his.
> --firing rest.............................. 2 up
> --hiring Walter........................ 2 up
> --makingsmyldisappear...... 2 up
> --delorme et al........................ 2 be determined
> --mellanby hire ...................... 2 up
> --keytothedeal.........................2 up
> --Linden....................................2 down
>
> On ice:
> -- draft........................................2 down
> -- Cammalleri...........................2 down
> -- Jokinen.................................2 down
> -- Morgan Clark.......................2 down....can you say nepotism ?
>
> Do we see a pattern developing here ?
>
> Jim

All but the last category= +8

I'd give the draft a zero, not enough picks, same old scouts

Cammalleri, yeah -2, I thought the Canucks could have done something,
maybe not the pick but a youngster and the second round pick.

Jokkinen, same although only Edler and Bieksa would be available to
trade, don't the rest have NMC's?

Clark is a waste but at 7th, well, I agree a long shot European would
have been wiser. However, at 7th round, the Canucks can sign a few
equivalent undrafted players and be as far ahead. No worries.

DAve
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:01:54 -0700 (PDT), Dave Logan
<dlogan_terroco.DeleteThis@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>Clark is a waste but at 7th, well, I agree a long shot European would
>have been wiser. However, at 7th round, the Canucks can sign a few
>equivalent undrafted players and be as far ahead. No worries.


daddy may decide to work full time for the Canucks.
That makes Roberto happy.
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In article <83186041-cbba-43db-accf-7d13bdda56b8
@i18g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Dave Logan
<dlogan_terroco.TakeThisOut@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>Jokkinen, same although only Edler and Bieksa would be available to
>trade, don't the rest have NMC's?

No trades. Nonis didn't have enough time to give everyone on the team no
movements. :-)

I think it would have been Bieksa and Kracker. Kracker I wouldn't care, but
I'm ambivalent about Bieksa. I wouldn't want to lose him, but to get something
good you have to give up something good. Tipping it in favor of getting
Jokinen for me, is V's [ or Bowness ] system which discourages Bieksasas
from doing what he demonstrated he was good at. Pinching, quick stretch
passes and rushing the puck. If he is going to remain shackled and just blast
it out dump it in, then give me skill up front for him.

Jim
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:55:01 GMT, bombelly.RemoveThis@sulet.ten (foamy) wrote:

>In article <83186041-cbba-43db-accf-7d13bdda56b8
>@i18g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Dave Logan
><dlogan_terroco.RemoveThis@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>>Jokkinen, same although only Edler and Bieksa would be available to
>>trade, don't the rest have NMC's?
>
>No trades. Nonis didn't have enough time to give everyone on the team no
>movements. :-)
>
>I think it would have been Bieksa and Kracker. Kracker I wouldn't care, but
>I'm ambivalent about Bieksa. I wouldn't want to lose him, but to get something
>good you have to give up something good. Tipping it in favor of getting
>Jokinen for me, is V's [ or Bowness ] system which discourages Bieksasas
>from doing what he demonstrated he was good at. Pinching, quick stretch
>passes and rushing the puck. If he is going to remain shackled and just blast
>it out dump it in, then give me skill up front for him.
>
>Jim

heard a few rumours about nylander,seems like a big salary for his
age,but he can pass de puck real fine like.
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In article <bj5r54t9jab0hbpvak7vka39relfm6bbcp.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
JD <me.TakeThisOut@home.now> wrote:

>heard a few rumours about nylander,seems like a big salary for his
>age,but he can pass de puck real fine like.

I always liked him, but as you point out, 35 yrs old, 3 years left on his
contract @ 5.5, 5.5, and 3. And throw in his shoulder surgery......

But I'd dismiss this rumour. He took 2.5 mill less to go to Washington
where his wife wants to live, plus he has a no movement clause.

Cue next rumour. <g> Jovo on his way !

Jim
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maybe if the team goes the tampa bay, and pittsburgh route and absolutely
bomb next year, we could get the numbe one pick next year. and isn't John
Taveres available next year???

Bruce


"foamy" <bombelly.RemoveThis@sulet.ten> wrote in message
news:OSg7k.616$2G6.496@edtnps83...
> In article <bj5r54t9jab0hbpvak7vka39relfm6bbcp.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
> JD <me.RemoveThis@home.now> wrote:
>
>>heard a few rumours about nylander,seems like a big salary for his
>>age,but he can pass de puck real fine like.
>
> I always liked him, but as you point out, 35 yrs old, 3 years left on his
> contract @ 5.5, 5.5, and 3. And throw in his shoulder surgery......
>
> But I'd dismiss this rumour. He took 2.5 mill less to go to Washington
> where his wife wants to live, plus he has a no movement clause.
>
> Cue next rumour. <g> Jovo on his way !
>
> Jim
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In article <Jfv7k.21162$kx.7902@pd7urf3no>, "bruce" <buyede RemoveThis @shaw.ca> wrote:
>maybe if the team goes the tampa bay, and pittsburgh route and absolutely
>bomb next year, we could get the numbe one pick next year. and isn't John
>Taveres available next year???

While in theory that sounds great, I'm afraid next year at this time would be
too emotionally damaging to watch Gillis pass on Tavares and select Freddy
Kratheimer, the 2008 College Jeopardy champ who dabbled in hockey as
a break from studying, his work with the underpriviledged, foodbanks, and
a crossing guard in a senior citizens retirement community.

Jim
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:48:04 GMT, bombelly.DeleteThis@sulet.ten (foamy) wrote:

>In article <Jfv7k.21162$kx.7902@pd7urf3no>, "bruce" <buyede.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>maybe if the team goes the tampa bay, and pittsburgh route and absolutely
>>bomb next year, we could get the numbe one pick next year. and isn't John
>>Taveres available next year???
>
>While in theory that sounds great, I'm afraid next year at this time would be
>too emotionally damaging to watch Gillis pass on Tavares and select Freddy
>Kratheimer, the 2008 College Jeopardy champ who dabbled in hockey as
>a break from studying, his work with the underpriviledged, foodbanks, and
>a crossing guard in a senior citizens retirement community.
>
>Jim

You are assuming the Canucks have a chance in hell of winning the
lottery


I bet the vet's are wondering WTF is going to happen on our road
trips?

nomore poker

Chess!
Self help tapes

eeeeks

:)
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