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Since: Apr 21, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:58 pm
Post subject: game 6
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Oh man....can they do it losing another d-man (lebda, kronwall, schneider).
Wings play a team game - and schneider went out on the third shift of the
game - and SJ still did squat.
Look for the wingers to really come back to the d-zone tonight hard - they
play a team defense should they should be fine - but it will be tough.
Any word on Lebda?
Do not like Wilson calling his team/players out in the press - very bad
form. I look for Wings to finish it tonight. I also look for Lidstron to
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:24 pm
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On Mon, 7 May 2007 13:58:51 -0500, "Hockeyguy"
<heymorons.DeleteThis@whatever.net> wrote:
>Oh man....can they do it losing another d-man (lebda, kronwall, schneider).
>Wings play a team game - and schneider went out on the third shift of the
>game - and SJ still did squat.
>Look for the wingers to really come back to the d-zone tonight hard - they
>play a team defense should they should be fine - but it will be tough.
>Any word on Lebda?
It's official: Wings' Lebda will return for Game 6 tonight
May 7, 2007
By HELENE ST. JAMES
FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER
SAN JOSE, Calif. -- Defenseman Brett Lebda will play tonight when the
Red Wings take a 3-2 series lead into Game 6 against the Sharks.
Lebda hasn’t played since April 21, in Game 5 of the first-round
series against Calgary, when he injured his left ankle. Lebda said
shortly afterward that if this were the regular season, he’d be out
for four to six weeks.
But this is the playoffs, the Wings are short on defensemen, and that
required Lebda to come back maybe sooner than is better. The Wings
lost Mathieu Schneider for the playoffs after he suffered a broken
left wrist Saturday, and fellow top-four defenseman Niklas Kronwall
has been out since March 30 with a non-displaced fractured sacrum (he
might be able to return late this month).
Lebda’s return will help with depth, but since he hasn’t played in 10
days, his effectiveness is going to be questionable, and that probably
will mean more minutes for all the veterans: Nicklas Lidstrom, Chris
Chelios, Danny Markov and Andreas Lilja.
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>Do not like Wilson calling his team/players out in the press - very bad
>form. I look for Wings to finish it tonight. I also look for Lidstron to
>have more ice time than hasek tonight...
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:24 pm
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<xpenenyx DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 7 May 2007 13:58:51 -0500, "Hockeyguy"
> <heymorons DeleteThis @whatever.net> wrote:
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>>Oh man....can they do it losing another d-man (lebda, kronwall,
>>schneider).
>>Wings play a team game - and schneider went out on the third shift of the
>>game - and SJ still did squat.
>>Look for the wingers to really come back to the d-zone tonight hard - they
>>play a team defense should they should be fine - but it will be tough.
>>Any word on Lebda?
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> It's official: Wings' Lebda will return for Game 6 tonight
> May 7, 2007
>
Yea, a friend of mine called me from Detroit - heard the same thing on
sports radio... >> Stay informed about: game 6 |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:57 am
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Santeri Pienimaki wrote:
> head buried in sand, Thomas <wharry RemoveThis @gmail.com> spat:
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> : Yeah, I wrote that. I wrote that assuming the Sharks would finish the
> : series playing like they had started it, not finishing like they were
> : Calgary.
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> I observe a pattern here.
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> : No, the Sharks choked away the series to a team that played good
> : defense, had really good goaltending
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> You mean Wings did that with those shallow defense corps full of
> terrible hacks, a roster full of third line scrub forwards, and with
> that gimpy old Hasek quitting in goal?
>
> What?
The shallow defense stuck to the system. The 3rd line scrub forwards
(which every Wings forward other than Datsyuk and Zetterberg are...The
Tooz hasn't shown that he's anything more than that, and Lang is only
useful on a scoring line once in awhile) stuck to the system. Hasek
hasn't quit yet, and if the team sticks to the system, he may not quit
this year.
Just because the Wings won the series doesn't mean they are deep.
Shallow teams win playoff series from time to time. Especially when the
teams they are playing against take dumps. Both Calgary and San Jose
have better rosters than the Wings do. Playing the way they can, both of
those teams are capable of sweeping the Wings.
We'll see what happens next round. I know Anaheim couldn't be happier
with the way things played out.
-Thomas >> Stay informed about: game 6 |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:18 am
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"Santeri Pienimaki" <iretnas DeleteThis @iki.fi.invalid> wrote in message
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> head buried in sand, Thomas <wharry DeleteThis @gmail.com> spat:
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> : Hasek hasn't quit yet, and if the team sticks to the system, he may
> : not quit this year.
>
> And another point, yet again: what is Hasek's record in elimination
> games with the Wings?
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If I recall correctly, he's 6 - 0 >> Stay informed about: game 6 |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:48 am
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On 8 May 2007 06:32:37 GMT, Santeri Pienimaki <iretnas.TakeThisOut@iki.fi.invalid>
wrote:
>head buried in sand, Thomas <wharry.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> spat:
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>: Yeah, I wrote that. I wrote that assuming the Sharks would finish the
>: series playing like they had started it, not finishing like they were
>: Calgary.
>
>I observe a pattern here.
>
>: No, the Sharks choked away the series to a team that played good
>: defense, had really good goaltending
>
>You mean Wings did that with those shallow defense corps full of
>terrible hacks, a roster full of third line scrub forwards, and with
>that gimpy old Hasek quitting in goal?
>
>What?
That's right! The Sharks quit on Wilson... >> Stay informed about: game 6 |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:16 pm
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On 8 May 2007 10:12:13 GMT, Santeri Pienimaki <iretnas RemoveThis @iki.fi.invalid>
wrote:
>head buried in sand, Thomas <wharry RemoveThis @gmail.com> spat:
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>: Hasek hasn't quit yet, and if the team sticks to the system, he may
>: not quit this year.
>
>And another point, yet again: what is Hasek's record in elimination
>games with the Wings?
Hasek hasn't ever lost a playoff series with Detroit yet. >> Stay informed about: game 6 |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:15 pm
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Santeri Pienimaki wrote:
> head buried in sand, Thomas <wharry.RemoveThis@gmail.com> spat:
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> : Shallow teams win playoff series from time to time. Especially when the
> : teams they are playing against take dumps.
>
> Good teams have a tendency of making others look bad, that is.
Right. But the Wings aren't that good a team, and they certainly didn't
do that in either of the two series so far.
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> : Both Calgary and San Jose
> : have better rosters than the Wings do. Playing the way they can, both of
> : those teams are capable of sweeping the Wings.
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> So if talent is out of the question it must be hard work, coaching, and
> leadership that makes Wings tick. Suits me.
Uh, yeah. That's what I have been saying all along. Work ethic,
coaching, commitment to a defensive system and goaltending are what the
Wings rely on.
-Thomas >> Stay informed about: game 6 |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:15 pm
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Santeri Pienimaki wrote:
> head buried in sand, Thomas <wharry.RemoveThis@gmail.com> spat:
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> : Hasek hasn't quit yet, and if the team sticks to the system, he may
> : not quit this year.
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> And another point, yet again: what is Hasek's record in elimination
> games with the Wings?
I don't know. How is that relevant to our discussion?
-Thomas >> Stay informed about: game 6 |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:46 pm
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On Wed, 09 May 2007 11:45:23 -0400, slider.DeleteThis@keyboard.com wrote:
>>Apparently, it escaped you, because you, for some unknown reason, felt
>>the need to cite some irrelevant statistic in response to an obvious joke.
>
>Jokes and serious statements are indistinguishable coming from you.
jokes are the serious statements gone bad. its a good way to back
pedal. c'mon slider get it right! :)
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:41 pm
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"Thomas" <wharry.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Santeri Pienimaki wrote:
>> head buried in sand, Thomas <wharry.DeleteThis@gmail.com> spat:
>>
>> : Yeah, I wrote that. I wrote that assuming the Sharks would finish the :
>> series playing like they had started it, not finishing like they were :
>> Calgary.
>>
>> I observe a pattern here.
>>
>> : No, the Sharks choked away the series to a team that played good :
>> defense, had really good goaltending
>>
>> You mean Wings did that with those shallow defense corps full of
>> terrible hacks, a roster full of third line scrub forwards, and with
>> that gimpy old Hasek quitting in goal?
>>
>> What?
>
> The shallow defense stuck to the system. The 3rd line scrub forwards
> (which every Wings forward other than Datsyuk and Zetterberg are...The
> Tooz hasn't shown that he's anything more than that, and Lang is only
> useful on a scoring line once in awhile) stuck to the system. Hasek hasn't
> quit yet, and if the team sticks to the system, he may not quit this year.
>
> Just because the Wings won the series doesn't mean they are deep. Shallow
> teams win playoff series from time to time. Especially when the teams they
> are playing against take dumps. Both Calgary and San Jose have better
> rosters than the Wings do. Playing the way they can, both of those teams
> are capable of sweeping the Wings.
>
> We'll see what happens next round. I know Anaheim couldn't be happier with
> the way things played out.
YOU are really one piece of work. I mean it. Do you ever just stand back
from the computer and read what you type sometimes? >> Stay informed about: game 6 |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:48 pm
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"Thomas" <wharry.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Santeri Pienimaki wrote:
>> head buried in sand, Thomas <wharry.RemoveThis@gmail.com> spat:
>>
>> : Shallow teams win playoff series from time to time. Especially when the
>> : teams they are playing against take dumps. Good teams have a tendency
>> of making others look bad, that is.
>
> Right. But the Wings aren't that good a team, and they certainly didn't do
> that in either of the two series so far.
So what exactly are you saying? That our score keepers were paid off. I
thought about that myself for a minute.
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>> : Both Calgary and San Jose : have better rosters than the Wings do.
>> Playing the way they can, both of : those teams are capable of sweeping
>> the Wings.
>>
>> So if talent is out of the question it must be hard work, coaching, and
>> leadership that makes Wings tick. Suits me.
>
> Uh, yeah. That's what I have been saying all along. Work ethic, coaching,
> commitment to a defensive system and goaltending are what the Wings rely
> on.
Good thing we called up Datsyuk and Zetterburg to fill up those water
bottles eh. The rest of the guys get thirsty with that kind of work ethic. >> Stay informed about: game 6 |
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