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kovy

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:26 am
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Wow! 2.8 is pretty mediocre. 2.4 is quite awful. 2.0 is absolutely abysmal.
1.6? Seriously... that just doesn't seem possible. You'd think the only way
that could happen is if it's entirely deliberate. What a start!!!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:26 am
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Not a Ranger fan here but I'll put my 2 cents in. Many times
throughout the years, the Rangers were suppose to be a good to great
team and weren't. They always had enough talent to get the job done.
It's similiar to the George Steinbrenner syndrom were the money is
spent over and above to get the best talent on the team to achieve the
goal to win it all. For years in the late 90's, the Yankees got their
wishes and won a bunch but it hasn't happened in how many years now.
The Rangers are similiar and you better thank your lucky stars that
Mark Messier was able to do what he did in 1994 or the drought would
be 67 years now. Sather went out and over spent and the team just has
no chemisty. They will start scoring and become better, but that's not
how you build a winner. It's not the coaches fault. I actually like
your coach. Jagr and Shanahan are old. They have some good young
players. Drury and Gomez were not great players before they went to
NY, they were very good players. They are not going to become
superstars. Don't be surprised if Sather is canned in the near future.
I'd say about (70%) of the people from the TV channels to magazines to
color commentators have picked the Rangers to win the cup. I don't see
what they saw.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:51 am
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sodapopshopnj.TakeThisOut@aol.com wrote:
> Not a Ranger fan here but I'll put my 2 cents in. Many times
> throughout the years, the Rangers were suppose to be a good to great
> team and weren't. They always had enough talent to get the job done.
> It's similiar to the George Steinbrenner syndrom were the money is
> spent over and above to get the best talent on the team to achieve the
> goal to win it all. For years in the late 90's, the Yankees got their
> wishes and won a bunch but it hasn't happened in how many years now.
> The Rangers are similiar and you better thank your lucky stars that
> Mark Messier was able to do what he did in 1994 or the drought would
> be 67 years now. Sather went out and over spent and the team just has
> no chemisty. They will start scoring and become better, but that's not
> how you build a winner. It's not the coaches fault. I actually like
> your coach. Jagr and Shanahan are old. They have some good young
> players. Drury and Gomez were not great players before they went to
> NY, they were very good players. They are not going to become
> superstars. Don't be surprised if Sather is canned in the near future.
> I'd say about (70%) of the people from the TV channels to magazines to
> color commentators have picked the Rangers to win the cup. I don't see
> what they saw.

It's the intangibles.

And the jello.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:31 am
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"kovy" <so.RemoveThis@happy.com> wrote in message
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> Wow! 2.8 is pretty mediocre. 2.4 is quite awful. 2.0 is absolutely
> abysmal. 1.6? Seriously... that just doesn't seem possible. You'd think
> the only way that could happen is if it's entirely deliberate. What a
> start!!!
>
I guess on the bright side can it get much lower?
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:15 am
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"paddy_nyr" <mpprpp RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "kovy" <so RemoveThis @happy.com> wrote in message
> news:13iao5gt5c6f3b8@corp.supernews.com...
>> Wow! 2.8 is pretty mediocre. 2.4 is quite awful. 2.0 is absolutely
>> abysmal. 1.6? Seriously... that just doesn't seem possible. You'd think
>> the only way that could happen is if it's entirely deliberate. What a
>> start!!!
>>
> I guess on the bright side can it get much lower?

Well... Gomez has been scoring a bit much lately. I mean 2 goals in 10
games? That's like, what, 16 goals for the season? That would be one of his
all time best seasons. Surely, he's got to slow down from that torrid pace.

There are 4 players on the team with 1 point and 8 players with 0 points.
They're good lads.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:41 pm
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kovy wrote:
> Wow! 2.8 is pretty mediocre. 2.4 is quite awful. 2.0 is absolutely abysmal.
> 1.6? Seriously... that just doesn't seem possible. You'd think the only way
> that could happen is if it's entirely deliberate. What a start!!!
>
>

Good thing that they get a fresh start come December.

Bob
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:04 pm
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On Oct 28, 10:43 pm, sodapopsho....TakeThisOut@aol.com wrote:
> Not a Ranger fan here but I'll put my 2 cents in.

You kind of said what we've all known for many years now.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:30 pm
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On Oct 28, 10:26 pm, "kovy" <s....RemoveThis@happy.com> wrote:
> Wow! 2.8 is pretty mediocre. 2.4 is quite awful. 2.0 is absolutely abysmal.
> 1.6? Seriously... that just doesn't seem possible. You'd think the only way
> that could happen is if it's entirely deliberate. What a start!!!

I'm saying they score their 20th goal on Saturday, against the
Devils. Three games from now.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:50 pm
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On Oct 29, 8:41 am, Bob Levine <nos....TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote:
> kovy wrote:
> > Wow! 2.8 is pretty mediocre. 2.4 is quite awful. 2.0 is absolutely abysmal.
> > 1.6? Seriously... that just doesn't seem possible. You'd think the only way
> > that could happen is if it's entirely deliberate. What a start!!!
>
> Good thing that they get a fresh start come December.

That's when Cullen returns to Garden Ice, right?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:53 pm
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On Oct 29, 10:30 am, Bender <Jeffrey.S.Morri....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 28, 10:26 pm, "kovy" <s....TakeThisOut@happy.com> wrote:
>
> > Wow! 2.8 is pretty mediocre. 2.4 is quite awful. 2.0 is absolutely abysmal.
> > 1.6? Seriously... that just doesn't seem possible. You'd think the only way
> > that could happen is if it's entirely deliberate. What a start!!!
>
> I'm saying they score their 20th goal on Saturday, against the
> Devils. Three games from now.

20th - 30th. The Devils are having a firesale on Goals Against right
now. That goal the Rangers scored 57 seconds in last time. Expect
aboot a half dozen like that. And a pp kill that's 30th in the league
right now should add another 4 or so.

Now I do realize that it would help if some of those goals could be
applied to other games, but think aboot it, that's greedy.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:09 pm
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<sodapopshopnj DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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> Not a Ranger fan here but I'll put my 2 cents in. Many times
> throughout the years, the Rangers were suppose to be a good to great
> team and weren't. They always had enough talent to get the job done.
> It's similiar to the George Steinbrenner syndrom were the money is
> spent over and above to get the best talent on the team to achieve the
> goal to win it all. For years in the late 90's, the Yankees got their
> wishes and won a bunch but it hasn't happened in how many years now.
> The Rangers are similiar and you better thank your lucky stars that
> Mark Messier was able to do what he did in 1994 or the drought would
> be 67 years now. Sather went out and over spent and the team just has
> no chemisty. They will start scoring and become better, but that's not
> how you build a winner. It's not the coaches fault. I actually like
> your coach. Jagr and Shanahan are old. They have some good young
> players. Drury and Gomez were not great players before they went to
> NY, they were very good players. They are not going to become
> superstars. Don't be surprised if Sather is canned in the near future.
> I'd say about (70%) of the people from the TV channels to magazines to
> color commentators have picked the Rangers to win the cup. I don't see
> what they saw.

Not a baseball fan here. But I have to say... I always find it rather odd
how often the Rangers are compared to the Yankees for whatever reason or
using whatever rationalization. I'd give my left nut for the Rangers to get
those kind of results. The Yankees are and have been superior to the Rangers
in every conceivable way. Any comparison is tremendous insult to the
Yankees.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:22 pm
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kovy wrote:

> They're good lads.

There's much to be said for character.

Bob
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:22 pm
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On 2007-10-29, Bob Levine <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.net> wrote:
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> There's much to be said for character.

What are their character stats since December?

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:40 pm
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On Oct 29, 7:15 am, "kovy" <s....TakeThisOut@happy.com> wrote:
> "paddy_nyr" <mpp....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4725eea9$0$47148$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net...
>
>
>
> > "kovy" <s....TakeThisOut@happy.com> wrote in message
> >news:13iao5gt5c6f3b8@corp.supernews.com...
> >> Wow! 2.8 is pretty mediocre. 2.4 is quite awful. 2.0 is absolutely
> >> abysmal. 1.6? Seriously... that just doesn't seem possible. You'd think
> >> the only way that could happen is if it's entirely deliberate. What a
> >> start!!!
>
> > I guess on the bright side can it get much lower?
>
> Well... Gomez has been scoring a bit much lately. I mean 2 goals in 10
> games? That's like, what, 16 goals for the season? That would be one of his
> all time best seasons. Surely, he's got to slow down from that torrid pace.
>
> There are 4 players on the team with 1 point and 8 players with 0 points.
> They're good lads.

16 goals would be his third best season.

Signed,
R.J.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:09 pm
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On Oct 29, 12:09 pm, "kovy" <s... DeleteThis @happy.com> wrote:
> Not a baseball fan here. But I have to say... I always find it rather odd
> how often the Rangers are compared to the Yankees for whatever reason or
> using whatever rationalization. I'd give my left nut for the Rangers to get
> those kind of results. The Yankees are and have been superior to the Rangers
> in every conceivable way. Any comparison is tremendous insult to the
> Yankees.

The Baltimore Orioles comparison is more apt.
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