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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:56 pm
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Nothing to worry about: looks like Canada will be able to continue
supplying pluggers to the NHL for a while. I mean, let's not get ahead
of ourselves here, Canada's 8 game unbeaten record (7 wins and 1
tie..coached by a Sutter no less!) in the just finished junior hockey
attempt to regain the magic of the '72 Summit Series (to our American
friends: that was the ultimate tournament between Canada and Russia -
you'd know it better as some meaningless nonsense before your Miracle On
Ice) was impressive, but we're only talking about future NHL journeymen
here. And before you argue about Canada's dominance of the NHL fluff
market, the last 3 straight World Junior titles further prove my
assertion that we haven't lost our stranglehold on the 4th line.
Unfortunately there's just no way Canada's hockey talent can be compared
to uber-talented Russian and other European hockey powers. We accept
our new role as hockey backdrop for the real talent coming from Europe.
And I don't mean to take away from the greatest hockey development
system in the universe (the US college hockey system), but they weren't
in the tournament, otherwise, I'm sure the American team would have
dominated like they do in all international hockey tournaments. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:06 am
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On Sep 9, 10:56 pm, pawn <p....DeleteThis@porthouse.com> wrote:
> Nothing to worry about: looks like Canada will be able to continue
> supplying pluggers to the NHL for a while. I mean, let's not get ahead
> of ourselves here, Canada's 8 game unbeaten record (7 wins and 1
> tie..coached by a Sutter no less!) in the just finished junior hockey
> attempt to regain the magic of the '72 Summit Series (to our American
> friends: that was the ultimate tournament between Canada and Russia -
> you'd know it better as some meaningless nonsense before your Miracle On
> Ice) was impressive, but we're only talking about future NHL journeymen
> here. And before you argue about Canada's dominance of the NHL fluff
> market, the last 3 straight World Junior titles further prove my
> assertion that we haven't lost our stranglehold on the 4th line.
>
> Unfortunately there's just no way Canada's hockey talent can be compared
> to uber-talented Russian and other European hockey powers. We accept
> our new role as hockey backdrop for the real talent coming from Europe.
> And I don't mean to take away from the greatest hockey development
> system in the universe (the US college hockey system), but they weren't
> in the tournament, otherwise, I'm sure the American team would have
> dominated like they do in all international hockey tournaments.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:38 am
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"pawn" <pawn.TakeThisOut@porthouse.com> wrote in message
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> Nothing to worry about: looks like Canada will be able to continue
> supplying pluggers to the NHL for a while. I mean, let's not get ahead of
> ourselves here, Canada's 8 game unbeaten record (7 wins and 1 tie..coached
> by a Sutter no less!) in the just finished junior hockey attempt to regain
> the magic of the '72 Summit Series (to our American friends: that was the
> ultimate tournament between Canada and Russia - you'd know it better as
> some meaningless nonsense before your Miracle On Ice) was impressive, but
> we're only talking about future NHL journeymen here. And before you
> argue about Canada's dominance of the NHL fluff market, the last 3
> straight World Junior titles further prove my assertion that we haven't
> lost our stranglehold on the 4th line.
>
> Unfortunately there's just no way Canada's hockey talent can be compared
> to uber-talented Russian and other European hockey powers. We accept our
> new role as hockey backdrop for the real talent coming from Europe. And I
> don't mean to take away from the greatest hockey development system in the
> universe (the US college hockey system), but they weren't in the
> tournament, otherwise, I'm sure the American team would have dominated
> like they do in all international hockey tournaments.
Kinda sad, huh? I wonder just when it was we lost our grip on the game and
the Americans took it away from us.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:01 pm
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:38:43 GMT, "Grande Mal" <ironwrkr.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
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>"pawn" <pawn.RemoveThis@porthouse.com> wrote in message
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>> Nothing to worry about: looks like Canada will be able to continue
>> supplying pluggers to the NHL for a while. I mean, let's not get ahead of
>> ourselves here, Canada's 8 game unbeaten record (7 wins and 1 tie..coached
>> by a Sutter no less!) in the just finished junior hockey attempt to regain
>> the magic of the '72 Summit Series (to our American friends: that was the
>> ultimate tournament between Canada and Russia - you'd know it better as
>> some meaningless nonsense before your Miracle On Ice) was impressive, but
>> we're only talking about future NHL journeymen here. And before you
>> argue about Canada's dominance of the NHL fluff market, the last 3
>> straight World Junior titles further prove my assertion that we haven't
>> lost our stranglehold on the 4th line.
>>
>> Unfortunately there's just no way Canada's hockey talent can be compared
>> to uber-talented Russian and other European hockey powers. We accept our
>> new role as hockey backdrop for the real talent coming from Europe. And I
>> don't mean to take away from the greatest hockey development system in the
>> universe (the US college hockey system), but they weren't in the
>> tournament, otherwise, I'm sure the American team would have dominated
>> like they do in all international hockey tournaments.
>
>Kinda sad, huh? I wonder just when it was we lost our grip on the game and
>the Americans took it away from us.
>Oh well. Anyone for curling?
>
What's the matter? Don't you two ever learn? How about showing me one
4th line in the NHL that is composed entirely of Non-Candians.
Using your standard of points scored as to how good a player is last
season was the first in six there were Canadians in the Rob Five than
non. Of the 20 worse scorers in the NHL that played 40+ games 75% were
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:10 pm
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xpenenyx DeleteThis @earthlink.net wrote:
> What's the matter? Don't you two ever learn? How about showing me one
> 4th line in the NHL that is composed entirely of Non-Candians.
> Using your standard of points scored as to how good a player is last
> season was the first in six there were Canadians in the Rob Five than
> non. Of the 20 worse scorers in the NHL that played 40+ games 75% were
> Canadian.
You know what the best thing about Usenet is? How someone's argument
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:59 pm
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<xpenenyx.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:38:43 GMT, "Grande Mal" <ironwrkr.DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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>>"pawn" <pawn.DeleteThis@porthouse.com> wrote in message
>>news:Tn2Fi.1832$tx1.339@read1.cgocable.net...
>>> Nothing to worry about: looks like Canada will be able to continue
>>> supplying pluggers to the NHL for a while. I mean, let's not get ahead
>>> of
>>> ourselves here, Canada's 8 game unbeaten record (7 wins and 1
>>> tie..coached
>>> by a Sutter no less!) in the just finished junior hockey attempt to
>>> regain
>>> the magic of the '72 Summit Series (to our American friends: that was
>>> the
>>> ultimate tournament between Canada and Russia - you'd know it better as
>>> some meaningless nonsense before your Miracle On Ice) was impressive,
>>> but
>>> we're only talking about future NHL journeymen here. And before you
>>> argue about Canada's dominance of the NHL fluff market, the last 3
>>> straight World Junior titles further prove my assertion that we haven't
>>> lost our stranglehold on the 4th line.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately there's just no way Canada's hockey talent can be compared
>>> to uber-talented Russian and other European hockey powers. We accept
>>> our
>>> new role as hockey backdrop for the real talent coming from Europe. And
>>> I
>>> don't mean to take away from the greatest hockey development system in
>>> the
>>> universe (the US college hockey system), but they weren't in the
>>> tournament, otherwise, I'm sure the American team would have dominated
>>> like they do in all international hockey tournaments.
>>
>>Kinda sad, huh? I wonder just when it was we lost our grip on the game and
>>the Americans took it away from us.
>>Oh well. Anyone for curling?
>>
> What's the matter? Don't you two ever learn? How about showing me one
> 4th line in the NHL that is composed entirely of Non-Candians.
Why? What's that about? How about one defensive pairing that's non-Canadian?
Or one goalie that's non-Canadian?
Or, one first line that's all Canadian?
> Using your standard of points scored as to how good a player
You're replying to me, right? Or did I miss something?
last
> season was the first in six there were Canadians in the Rob Five than
> non. Of the 20 worse scorers in the NHL that played 40+ games 75% were
> Canadian.
How's your back after that one? Did you lift with the knees? I hope you
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:35 pm
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> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:38:43 GMT, "Grande Mal" <ironwrkr DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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>>"pawn" <pawn DeleteThis @porthouse.com> wrote in message
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>>> Nothing to worry about: looks like Canada will be able to continue
>>> supplying pluggers to the NHL for a while. I mean, let's not get ahead
>>> of
>>> ourselves here, Canada's 8 game unbeaten record (7 wins and 1
>>> tie..coached
>>> by a Sutter no less!) in the just finished junior hockey attempt to
>>> regain
>>> the magic of the '72 Summit Series (to our American friends: that was
>>> the
>>> ultimate tournament between Canada and Russia - you'd know it better as
>>> some meaningless nonsense before your Miracle On Ice) was impressive,
>>> but
>>> we're only talking about future NHL journeymen here. And before you
>>> argue about Canada's dominance of the NHL fluff market, the last 3
>>> straight World Junior titles further prove my assertion that we haven't
>>> lost our stranglehold on the 4th line.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately there's just no way Canada's hockey talent can be compared
>>> to uber-talented Russian and other European hockey powers. We accept
>>> our
>>> new role as hockey backdrop for the real talent coming from Europe. And
>>> I
>>> don't mean to take away from the greatest hockey development system in
>>> the
>>> universe (the US college hockey system), but they weren't in the
>>> tournament, otherwise, I'm sure the American team would have dominated
>>> like they do in all international hockey tournaments.
>>
>>Kinda sad, huh? I wonder just when it was we lost our grip on the game and
>>the Americans took it away from us.
>>Oh well. Anyone for curling?
>>
> What's the matter? Don't you two ever learn? How about showing me one
> 4th line in the NHL that is composed entirely of Non-Candians.
> Using your standard of points scored as to how good a player is last
> season was the first in six there were Canadians in the Rob Five than
> non. Of the 20 worse scorers in the NHL that played 40+ games 75% were
> Canadian.
RK Player Pos Team GP G A P +/- ESP SHP PwPP HmP RdP ODvP DvP P/G
1 Sidney Crosby C PIT 79 36 84 120 10 59 0 61 64 56 71 49 1.52
2 Joe Thornton C SJS 82 22 92 114 24 60 0 54 65 49 72 42 1.39
3 Vincent Lecavalier C TBL 82 52 56 108 2 63 9 36 47 61 65 43 1.32
4 Dany Heatley R OTT 82 50 55 105 31 62 4 39 50 55 56 49 1.28
5 Martin St. Louis R TBL 82 43 59 102 7 61 11 30 46 56 56 46 1.24
6 Marian Hossa R ATL 82 43 57 100 18 52 4 44 59 41 67 33 1.22
7 Joe Sakic C COL 82 36 64 100 2 57 0 43 52 48 64 36 1.22
8 Jaromir Jagr R NYR 82 30 66 96 26 55 0 41 57 39 62 34 1.17
9 Marc Savard C BOS 82 22 74 96 -19 46 1 49 49 47 63 33 1.17
10 Daniel Briere
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:24 pm
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<xpenenyx.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:38:43 GMT, "Grande Mal" <ironwrkr.DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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>>"pawn" <pawn.DeleteThis@porthouse.com> wrote in message
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>>> Nothing to worry about: looks like Canada will be able to continue
>>> supplying pluggers to the NHL for a while. I mean, let's not get ahead
>>> of
>>> ourselves here, Canada's 8 game unbeaten record (7 wins and 1
>>> tie..coached
>>> by a Sutter no less!) in the just finished junior hockey attempt to
>>> regain
>>> the magic of the '72 Summit Series (to our American friends: that was
>>> the
>>> ultimate tournament between Canada and Russia - you'd know it better as
>>> some meaningless nonsense before your Miracle On Ice) was impressive,
>>> but
>>> we're only talking about future NHL journeymen here. And before you
>>> argue about Canada's dominance of the NHL fluff market, the last 3
>>> straight World Junior titles further prove my assertion that we haven't
>>> lost our stranglehold on the 4th line.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately there's just no way Canada's hockey talent can be compared
>>> to uber-talented Russian and other European hockey powers. We accept
>>> our
>>> new role as hockey backdrop for the real talent coming from Europe. And
>>> I
>>> don't mean to take away from the greatest hockey development system in
>>> the
>>> universe (the US college hockey system), but they weren't in the
>>> tournament, otherwise, I'm sure the American team would have dominated
>>> like they do in all international hockey tournaments.
>>
>>Kinda sad, huh? I wonder just when it was we lost our grip on the game and
>>the Americans took it away from us.
>>Oh well. Anyone for curling?
>>
> What's the matter? Don't you two ever learn? How about showing me one
> 4th line in the NHL that is composed entirely of Non-Candians.
> Using your standard of points scored as to how good a player is last
> season was the first in six there were Canadians in the Rob Five than
> non. Of the 20 worse scorers in the NHL that played 40+ games 75% were
> Canadian.
From Charlie Teljeur in 'the Hockey News'...
Canada has evidently become King Kong in the world of hockey while
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:45 pm
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> <xpenenyx.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:38:43 GMT, "Grande Mal" <ironwrkr.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>>
>> What's the matter? Don't you two ever learn? How about showing me one
>> 4th line in the NHL that is composed entirely of Non-Candians.
>> Using your standard of points scored as to how good a player is last
>> season was the first in six there were Canadians in the Rob Five than
>> non. Of the 20 worse scorers in the NHL that played 40+ games 75% were
>> Canadian.
>
> RK Player Pos Team GP G A P +/- ESP SHP PwPP HmP RdP ODvP DvP P/G
> 1 Sidney Crosby C PIT 79 36 84 120 10 59 0 61 64 56 71 49 1.52
> 2 Joe Thornton C SJS 82 22 92 114 24 60 0 54 65 49 72 42 1.39
> 3 Vincent Lecavalier C TBL 82 52 56 108 2 63 9 36 47 61 65 43 1.32
> 4 Dany Heatley R OTT 82 50 55 105 31 62 4 39 50 55 56 49 1.28
> 5 Martin St. Louis R TBL 82 43 59 102 7 61 11 30 46 56 56 46 1.24
> 6 Marian Hossa R ATL 82 43 57 100 18 52 4 44 59 41 67 33 1.22
> 7 Joe Sakic C COL 82 36 64 100 2 57 0 43 52 48 64 36 1.22
> 8 Jaromir Jagr R NYR 82 30 66 96 26 55 0 41 57 39 62 34 1.17
> 9 Marc Savard C BOS 82 22 74 96 -19 46 1 49 49 47 63 33 1.17
> 10 Daniel Briere
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>
> Of the top 10 scores in the league last season, 80% were Canadian.
Careful. One of these knotheads is soon gonna be leaping about, claiming
that because Heatley's dad was playing in Germany when he was born, he's not
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:45 pm
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> "Freedom Elz" <kred RemoveThis @tifle.net> wrote in message
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>> <xpenenyx RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:38:43 GMT, "Grande Mal" <ironwrkr RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>> What's the matter? Don't you two ever learn? How about showing me one
>>> 4th line in the NHL that is composed entirely of Non-Candians.
>>> Using your standard of points scored as to how good a player is last
>>> season was the first in six there were Canadians in the Rob Five than
>>> non. Of the 20 worse scorers in the NHL that played 40+ games 75% were
>>> Canadian.
>>
>> RK Player Pos Team GP G A P +/- ESP SHP PwPP HmP RdP ODvP DvP P/G
>> 1 Sidney Crosby C PIT 79 36 84 120 10 59 0 61 64 56 71 49 1.52
>> 2 Joe Thornton C SJS 82 22 92 114 24 60 0 54 65 49 72 42 1.39
>> 3 Vincent Lecavalier C TBL 82 52 56 108 2 63 9 36 47 61 65 43 1.32
>> 4 Dany Heatley R OTT 82 50 55 105 31 62 4 39 50 55 56 49 1.28
>> 5 Martin St. Louis R TBL 82 43 59 102 7 61 11 30 46 56 56 46 1.24
>> 6 Marian Hossa R ATL 82 43 57 100 18 52 4 44 59 41 67 33 1.22
>> 7 Joe Sakic C COL 82 36 64 100 2 57 0 43 52 48 64 36 1.22
>> 8 Jaromir Jagr R NYR 82 30 66 96 26 55 0 41 57 39 62 34 1.17
>> 9 Marc Savard C BOS 82 22 74 96 -19 46 1 49 49 47 63 33 1.17
>> 10 Daniel Briere
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>>
>> Of the top 10 scores in the league last season, 80% were Canadian.
>
> Careful. One of these knotheads is soon gonna be leaping about, claiming
> that because Heatley's dad was playing in Germany when he was born, he's
> not really Canadian.
Yeah they've tried that before, I usually just point out that by the same
logic
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:13 pm
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>On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:38:43 GMT, "Grande Mal" <ironwrkr RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>>Kinda sad, huh? I wonder just when it was we lost our grip on the game and
>>the Americans took it away from us.
>>Oh well. Anyone for curling?
>>
>What's the matter? Don't you two ever learn? How about showing me one
>4th line in the NHL that is composed entirely of Non-Candians.
it's a tough job, but somebody's gotta do it.
>Using your standard of points scored as to how good a player is last
>season was the first in six there were Canadians in the Rob Five than
>non. Of the 20 worse scorers in the NHL that played 40+ games 75% were
>Canadian.
nhl.com has the top scoring US born player last season at 45th
overall. i refuse to believe it.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:19 pm
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>> "Freedom Elz" <kred RemoveThis @tifle.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> RK Player Pos Team GP G A P +/- ESP SHP PwPP HmP RdP ODvP DvP P/G
>>> 1 Sidney Crosby C PIT 79 36 84 120 10 59 0 61 64 56 71 49 1.52
>>> 2 Joe Thornton C SJS 82 22 92 114 24 60 0 54 65 49 72 42 1.39
>>> 3 Vincent Lecavalier C TBL 82 52 56 108 2 63 9 36 47 61 65 43 1.32
>>> 4 Dany Heatley R OTT 82 50 55 105 31 62 4 39 50 55 56 49 1.28
>>> 5 Martin St. Louis R TBL 82 43 59 102 7 61 11 30 46 56 56 46 1.24
>>> 6 Marian Hossa R ATL 82 43 57 100 18 52 4 44 59 41 67 33 1.22
>>> 7 Joe Sakic C COL 82 36 64 100 2 57 0 43 52 48 64 36 1.22
>>> 8 Jaromir Jagr R NYR 82 30 66 96 26 55 0 41 57 39 62 34 1.17
>>> 9 Marc Savard C BOS 82 22 74 96 -19 46 1 49 49 47 63 33 1.17
>>> 10 Daniel Briere
>>>
>>>
>>> Of the top 10 scores in the league last season, 80% were Canadian.
>>
>> Careful. One of these knotheads is soon gonna be leaping about, claiming
>> that because Heatley's dad was playing in Germany when he was born, he's
>> not really Canadian.
>
> Yeah they've tried that before, I usually just point out that by the same
> logic
> Paul Stastny is Canadian.
Let's take him. I hear Gretz is American now- we need to replace him
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>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:38:43 GMT, "Grande Mal" <ironwrkr.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> "pawn" <pawn.TakeThisOut@porthouse.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Tn2Fi.1832$tx1.339@read1.cgocable.net...
>>>> Nothing to worry about: looks like Canada will be able to continue
>>>> supplying pluggers to the NHL for a while. I mean, let's not get ahead
>>>> of
>>>> ourselves here, Canada's 8 game unbeaten record (7 wins and 1
>>>> tie..coached
>>>> by a Sutter no less!) in the just finished junior hockey attempt to
>>>> regain
>>>> the magic of the '72 Summit Series (to our American friends: that was
>>>> the
>>>> ultimate tournament between Canada and Russia - you'd know it better as
>>>> some meaningless nonsense before your Miracle On Ice) was impressive,
>>>> but
>>>> we're only talking about future NHL journeymen here. And before you
>>>> argue about Canada's dominance of the NHL fluff market, the last 3
>>>> straight World Junior titles further prove my assertion that we haven't
>>>> lost our stranglehold on the 4th line.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately there's just no way Canada's hockey talent can be compared
>>>> to uber-talented Russian and other European hockey powers. We accept
>>>> our
>>>> new role as hockey backdrop for the real talent coming from Europe. And
>>>> I
>>>> don't mean to take away from the greatest hockey development system in
>>>> the
>>>> universe (the US college hockey system), but they weren't in the
>>>> tournament, otherwise, I'm sure the American team would have dominated
>>>> like they do in all international hockey tournaments.
>>> Kinda sad, huh? I wonder just when it was we lost our grip on the game and
>>> the Americans took it away from us.
>>> Oh well. Anyone for curling?
>>>
>> What's the matter? Don't you two ever learn? How about showing me one
>> 4th line in the NHL that is composed entirely of Non-Candians.
>> Using your standard of points scored as to how good a player is last
>> season was the first in six there were Canadians in the Rob Five than
>> non. Of the 20 worse scorers in the NHL that played 40+ games 75% were
>> Canadian.
>
> RK Player Pos Team GP G A P +/- ESP SHP PwPP HmP RdP ODvP DvP P/G
> 1 Sidney Crosby C PIT 79 36 84 120 10 59 0 61 64 56 71 49 1.52
> 2 Joe Thornton C SJS 82 22 92 114 24 60 0 54 65 49 72 42 1.39
> 3 Vincent Lecavalier C TBL 82 52 56 108 2 63 9 36 47 61 65 43 1.32
> 4 Dany Heatley R OTT 82 50 55 105 31 62 4 39 50 55 56 49 1.28
> 5 Martin St. Louis R TBL 82 43 59 102 7 61 11 30 46 56 56 46 1.24
> 6 Marian Hossa R ATL 82 43 57 100 18 52 4 44 59 41 67 33 1.22
> 7 Joe Sakic C COL 82 36 64 100 2 57 0 43 52 48 64 36 1.22
> 8 Jaromir Jagr R NYR 82 30 66 96 26 55 0 41 57 39 62 34 1.17
> 9 Marc Savard C BOS 82 22 74 96 -19 46 1 49 49 47 63 33 1.17
> 10 Daniel Briere
>
>
> Of the top 10 scores in the league last season, 80% were Canadian.
Of the top 10 scorers in the league last season, four were Canadian, two
were European, and four were French-Canadian.
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>>>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:38:43 GMT, "Grande Mal" <ironwrkr DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What's the matter? Don't you two ever learn? How about showing me one
>>>> 4th line in the NHL that is composed entirely of Non-Candians.
>>>> Using your standard of points scored as to how good a player is last
>>>> season was the first in six there were Canadians in the Rob Five than
>>>> non. Of the 20 worse scorers in the NHL that played 40+ games 75% were
>>>> Canadian.
>>> RK Player Pos Team GP G A P +/- ESP SHP PwPP HmP RdP ODvP DvP P/G
>>> 1 Sidney Crosby C PIT 79 36 84 120 10 59 0 61 64 56 71 49 1.52
>>> 2 Joe Thornton C SJS 82 22 92 114 24 60 0 54 65 49 72 42 1.39
>>> 3 Vincent Lecavalier C TBL 82 52 56 108 2 63 9 36 47 61 65 43 1.32
>>> 4 Dany Heatley R OTT 82 50 55 105 31 62 4 39 50 55 56 49 1.28
>>> 5 Martin St. Louis R TBL 82 43 59 102 7 61 11 30 46 56 56 46 1.24
>>> 6 Marian Hossa R ATL 82 43 57 100 18 52 4 44 59 41 67 33 1.22
>>> 7 Joe Sakic C COL 82 36 64 100 2 57 0 43 52 48 64 36 1.22
>>> 8 Jaromir Jagr R NYR 82 30 66 96 26 55 0 41 57 39 62 34 1.17
>>> 9 Marc Savard C BOS 82 22 74 96 -19 46 1 49 49 47 63 33 1.17
>>> 10 Daniel Briere
>>>
>>>
>>> Of the top 10 scores in the league last season, 80% were Canadian.
>> Careful. One of these knotheads is soon gonna be leaping about, claiming
>> that because Heatley's dad was playing in Germany when he was born, he's
>> not really Canadian.
>
> Yeah they've tried that before, I usually just point out that by the same
> logic
> Paul Stastny is Canadian.
As if that somehow disproves the argument in any way.
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>>>>
>>>> RK Player Pos Team GP G A P +/- ESP SHP PwPP HmP RdP ODvP DvP P/G
>>>> 1 Sidney Crosby C PIT 79 36 84 120 10 59 0 61 64 56 71 49 1.52
>>>> 2 Joe Thornton C SJS 82 22 92 114 24 60 0 54 65 49 72 42 1.39
>>>> 3 Vincent Lecavalier C TBL 82 52 56 108 2 63 9 36 47 61 65 43 1.32
>>>> 4 Dany Heatley R OTT 82 50 55 105 31 62 4 39 50 55 56 49 1.28
>>>> 5 Martin St. Louis R TBL 82 43 59 102 7 61 11 30 46 56 56 46 1.24
>>>> 6 Marian Hossa R ATL 82 43 57 100 18 52 4 44 59 41 67 33 1.22
>>>> 7 Joe Sakic C COL 82 36 64 100 2 57 0 43 52 48 64 36 1.22
>>>> 8 Jaromir Jagr R NYR 82 30 66 96 26 55 0 41 57 39 62 34 1.17
>>>> 9 Marc Savard C BOS 82 22 74 96 -19 46 1 49 49 47 63 33 1.17
>>>> 10 Daniel Briere
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of the top 10 scores in the league last season, 80% were Canadian.
>>> Careful. One of these knotheads is soon gonna be leaping about, claiming
>>> that because Heatley's dad was playing in Germany when he was born, he's
>>> not really Canadian.
>> Yeah they've tried that before, I usually just point out that by the same
>> logic
>> Paul Stastny is Canadian.
>
> Let's take him. I hear Gretz is American now-
Gretzky is as American as Nash is Canadian. Your pick. Either Gretzky is
American or Nash is South African. You can't have it both ways.
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