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(Msg. 31) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:27 pm
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>Okay, here they are from 05-06
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>RK Player Pos Team GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW OT S S% TOI/G Sft/G FO%
>1 Joe Thornton C SJS 81 29 96 125 31 61 11 0 6 1 195 14.9 21:20 26.0
>51.3
>2 Jaromir Jagr R NYR 82 54 69 123 34 72 24 0 9 2 368 14.7 22:04 22.2
>16.7
>3 Alexander Ovechkin L WSH 81 52 54 106 2 52 21 3 5 2 425 12.2 21:37
>24.2 12.5
>4 Dany Heatley R OTT 82 50 53 103 29 86 23 2 7 0 300 16.7 21:09 22.3
>53.6
>5 Daniel Alfredsson R OTT 77 43 60 103 29 50 16 5 8 0 249 17.3 21:41
>23.2 20.4
>6 Sidney Crosby C PIT 81 39 63 102 -1 110 16 0 5 3 278 14.0 20:07
>24.2 45.5
>7 Eric Staal C CAR 82 45 55 100 -8 81 19 4 4 0 279 16.1 19:38 25.2
>42.6
>8 Ilya Kovalchuk L ATL 78 52 46 98 -6 68 27 0 7 0 323 16.1 22:22 22.6
>40.4
>9 Marc Savard C ATL 82 28 69 97 7 100 14 1 4 2 212 13.2 20:30 24.7
>51.6
>10 Jonathan Cheechoo
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>6 of 10 are Canadian.
If you continue back it's:
03-04 4-10
02-03 5-5
01-02 3-10
00-01 2-10
So as of right now the Top Ten leading scorers is trending Canadian.
Now if you look at 11-20 for the last six seasons there is only one
even split with two 40%, one 30% and two 20%.
Now what would you set as a criteria to determine the bottom ten
players?
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:30 pm
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:57 pm
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Thomas wrote:
> Grande Mal wrote:
>> "Freedom Elz" <kred.TakeThisOut@tifle.net> wrote in message
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>>> "Grande Mal" <ironwrkr.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>> "Freedom Elz" <kred.TakeThisOut@tifle.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> RK Player Pos Team GP G A P +/- ESP SHP PwPP HmP RdP ODvP DvP P/G
>>>>> 1 Sidney Crosby C PIT 79 36 84 120 10 59 0 61 64 56 71 49 1.52
>>>>> 2 Joe Thornton C SJS 82 22 92 114 24 60 0 54 65 49 72 42 1.39
>>>>> 3 Vincent Lecavalier C TBL 82 52 56 108 2 63 9 36 47 61 65 43
>>>>> 1.32
>>>>> 4 Dany Heatley R OTT 82 50 55 105 31 62 4 39 50 55 56 49 1.28
>>>>> 5 Martin St. Louis R TBL 82 43 59 102 7 61 11 30 46 56 56 46 1.24
>>>>> 6 Marian Hossa R ATL 82 43 57 100 18 52 4 44 59 41 67 33 1.22
>>>>> 7 Joe Sakic C COL 82 36 64 100 2 57 0 43 52 48 64 36 1.22
>>>>> 8 Jaromir Jagr R NYR 82 30 66 96 26 55 0 41 57 39 62 34 1.17
>>>>> 9 Marc Savard C BOS 82 22 74 96 -19 46 1 49 49 47 63 33 1.17
>>>>> 10 Daniel Briere
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Of the top 10 scores in the league last season, 80% were Canadian.
>>>> Careful. One of these knotheads is soon gonna be leaping about,
>>>> claiming that because Heatley's dad was playing in Germany when he
>>>> was born, he's not really Canadian.
>>> Yeah they've tried that before, I usually just point out that by the
>>> same logic
>>> Paul Stastny is Canadian.
>>
>> Let's take him. I hear Gretz is American now-
>
> Gretzky is as American as Nash is Canadian. Your pick. Either Gretzky is
> American or Nash is South African. You can't have it both ways.
Yes I can, because our system created both of them. Nash was here as an
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:58 pm
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:32 pm
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:53 pm
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:35 pm
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"Thomas" <noneman DeleteThis @none.man> wrote in message
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> Grande Mal wrote:
>> "Thomas" <noneman DeleteThis @none.man> wrote in message
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>>> Freedom Elz wrote:
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>>>> Of the top 10 scores in the league last season, 80% were Canadian.
>>> Of the top 10 scorers in the league last season, four were Canadian, two
>>> were European, and four were French-Canadian.
>>>
>>> -Thomas
>>
>> Wow. Aren't you the worldly, cosmopolitan raconteur. Maybe you'd favour
>> us with your analysis of the French separatist movement in Canada
>> vis-a-vis the Socialist politics of the Parti Quebecois and the
>> urban-rural demographics in Quebec.
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> We've already beaten that horse to death here.
>
> -Thomas
Ah. But you thought you'd climb aboard and spur it a little anyway, just in
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:38 pm
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"Thomas" <noneman.DeleteThis@none.man> wrote in message
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> Freedom Elz wrote:
>> On Sep 11, 12:29 am, Thomas <none....DeleteThis@none.man> wrote:
>>> Freedom Elz wrote:
>>>> <xpene....DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:38:43 GMT, "Grande Mal" <ironw....DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> "pawn" <p....DeleteThis@porthouse.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>> Nothing to worry about: looks like Canada will be able to continue
>>>>>>> supplying pluggers to the NHL for a while. I mean, let's not get
>>>>>>> ahead
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> ourselves here, Canada's 8 game unbeaten record (7 wins and 1
>>>>>>> tie..coached
>>>>>>> by a Sutter no less!) in the just finished junior hockey attempt to
>>>>>>> regain
>>>>>>> the magic of the '72 Summit Series (to our American friends: that
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> ultimate tournament between Canada and Russia - you'd know it better
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> some meaningless nonsense before your Miracle On Ice) was
>>>>>>> impressive,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> we're only talking about future NHL journeymen here. And before
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> argue about Canada's dominance of the NHL fluff market, the last 3
>>>>>>> straight World Junior titles further prove my assertion that we
>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>> lost our stranglehold on the 4th line.
>>>>>>> Unfortunately there's just no way Canada's hockey talent can be
>>>>>>> compared
>>>>>>> to uber-talented Russian and other European hockey powers. We
>>>>>>> accept
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> new role as hockey backdrop for the real talent coming from Europe.
>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> don't mean to take away from the greatest hockey development system
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> universe (the US college hockey system), but they weren't in the
>>>>>>> tournament, otherwise, I'm sure the American team would have
>>>>>>> dominated
>>>>>>> like they do in all international hockey tournaments.
>>>>>> Kinda sad, huh? I wonder just when it was we lost our grip on the
>>>>>> game and
>>>>>> the Americans took it away from us.
>>>>>> Oh well. Anyone for curling?
>>>>> What's the matter? Don't you two ever learn? How about showing me one
>>>>> 4th line in the NHL that is composed entirely of Non-Candians.
>>>>> Using your standard of points scored as to how good a player is last
>>>>> season was the first in six there were Canadians in the Rob Five than
>>>>> non. Of the 20 worse scorers in the NHL that played 40+ games 75% were
>>>>> Canadian.
>>>> RK Player Pos Team GP G A P +/- ESP SHP PwPP HmP RdP ODvP DvP P/G
>>>> 1 Sidney Crosby C PIT 79 36 84 120 10 59 0 61 64 56 71 49 1.52
>>>> 2 Joe Thornton C SJS 82 22 92 114 24 60 0 54 65 49 72 42 1.39
>>>> 3 Vincent Lecavalier C TBL 82 52 56 108 2 63 9 36 47 61 65 43
>>>> 1.32
>>>> 4 Dany Heatley R OTT 82 50 55 105 31 62 4 39 50 55 56 49 1.28
>>>> 5 Martin St. Louis R TBL 82 43 59 102 7 61 11 30 46 56 56 46 1.24
>>>> 6 Marian Hossa R ATL 82 43 57 100 18 52 4 44 59 41 67 33 1.22
>>>> 7 Joe Sakic C COL 82 36 64 100 2 57 0 43 52 48 64 36 1.22
>>>> 8 Jaromir Jagr R NYR 82 30 66 96 26 55 0 41 57 39 62 34 1.17
>>>> 9 Marc Savard C BOS 82 22 74 96 -19 46 1 49 49 47 63 33 1.17
>>>> 10 Daniel Briere
>>>> Of the top 10 scores in the league last season, 80% were Canadian.
>>> Of the top 10 scorers in the league last season, four were Canadian, two
>>> were European, and four were French-Canadian.
>>
>> French Canadian IS Canadian.
>>
>
> Not if you ask them.
>
> -Thomas
They've been asked three times now and their answer was always the same. You
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:48 pm
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>>> Let's take him. I hear Gretz is American now-
>>
>> Gretzky is as American as Nash is Canadian. Your pick. Either Gretzky is
>> American or Nash is South African. You can't have it both ways.
>>
>> -Thomas
>
> Nah, the whole thing bores me. You pick. You want Gretzky, fine, he's
> yours. He's probably irretrievably American by now, anyway. Got the
> Hollywood wife, the sunbelt hacienda- hell, I bet his kids can't even
> spell 'rumour'. He's gone a long way from his dad flooding the backyard
> rink and he'll fit in with you guys better now, anyway.
Kind of a dirty trick to play on Mike Modano, isn't it. I mean, after all
the doin's and hoopla you all gave him for being number 35 or whatever, now
he has to try to be number 1? Poor tired old man is gonna be a long time in
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:35 am
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>>> French Canadian IS Canadian.
>
>>Not if you ask them.
> or Don Cherry when it concerns hockey.
>>>
>
>>
>>-Thomas
Don Cherry? You serious? You *do* know that he's just a clown, right?
Anyone who'd ask Don Cherry for his opinion on politics would elect a pro
rassler Governor.
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:11 am
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:53:42 -0400, "Freedom Elz" <kred.DeleteThis@tifle.net>
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>>>> French Canadian IS Canadian.
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>>>Not if you ask them.
>> or Don Cherry when it concerns hockey.
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>That's bullshit on both counts.
>
>Don Cheryy loves Patty Roy and Martin Brodeur, where are they from again?
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:12 pm
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>> Yes I can, because our system created both of them. Nash was here as an
>> infant, he didn't learn to play BB in South Africa.
>>
> and he sure didn't learn to play the type of basketball that made him
> a star while playing basketball in Canada either.
Partially he did (a lot more than he did as a month old in South
Africa). Hey I know, why don;t we just ask Nash what he considers
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:47 pm
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>>>> French Canadian IS Canadian.
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>>>Not if you ask them.
>> or Don Cherry when it concerns hockey.
>>>>
>>
>>>
>>>-Thomas
>
>Don Cherry? You serious? You *do* know that he's just a clown, right?
Maybe to you and me but it seems a few of you countrymen thought/
think he is "The Greatest Canadian."
>Anyone who'd ask Don Cherry for his opinion on politics would elect a pro
>rassler Governor.
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:56 am
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>>Yes I can, because our system created both of them. Nash was here as an
>>infant, he didn't learn to play BB in South Africa.
>>
> and he sure didn't learn to play the type of basketball that made him
> a star while playing basketball in Canada either.
JR and Modano both played Junior hockey up here, they didn't learn the type
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:03 pm
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>>>Yes I can, because our system created both of them. Nash was here as an
>>>infant, he didn't learn to play BB in South Africa.
>>>
>> and he sure didn't learn to play the type of basketball that made him
>> a star while playing basketball in Canada either.
>
>
>JR and Modano both played Junior hockey up here, they didn't learn the type
>of
>hockey that made them Pros in the US.
>
Have you ever seen me claim that they were a product of a US hockey
program? Nash might have learned to play basketball in Canada but he
wasn't good enough to go pro until he played four seasons at SCU. Nash
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