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kovy

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:43 pm
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This is really unpleasant to watch. I just hate it so much.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:43 pm
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On Dec 20, 7:43 pm, "kovy" wrote:
> This is really unpleasant to watch. I just hate it so much.

Two minute minor to kovy, unsportsmanlike conduct.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:43 pm
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On Dec 20, 9:18 pm, Doug Thompson wrote:
> OK. I guess.

I think he was trying to say that Renney had the opportunity to stick
up for his team by getting a whole lot angrier, fines or suspensions
be damned.

Robots are instructed not to attack humans, though. I think it's the
first law.

Robocop is the only cyborg to ever overcome its programming, and
Renney-bot is sure no Robocop.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:20 pm
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"Doug Thompson" wrote in message

> Why so Gary's sheep Colie could suspend Renney and the NHL could fine
> Dolan?

Yes. That's why.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:34 am
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And proving what? That Gary's in charge?

kovy wrote:
> "Doug Thompson" wrote in message
>
>> Why so Gary's sheep Colie could suspend Renney and the NHL could fine
>> Dolan?
>
> Yes. That's why.
>
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:34 am
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"Doug Thompson" wrote in message

> And proving what? That Gary's in charge?

Yes. That's what.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:34 am
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OK. I guess.

kovy wrote:
> "Doug Thompson" wrote in message
>
>> And proving what? That Gary's in charge?
>
> Yes. That's what.
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:59 am
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On Dec 21, 9:11 am, Bob Levine wrote:
> In an interview after the game Shanahan said he agreed with the no call.

I agree there was no call as well.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:59 pm
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Thanks. I understood. I don't agree.

If Renney had to fling sticks and water bottles on the ice each time an
official screwed things up it would be happening each game. The truth is
Burns elbowed Prucha in the head. The NHL and its officials are supposed
to be protecting the head. Now, if this is so will Colie suspend Burns?
I think he should, but I think he won't.

Why? Glad you asked. The NHL officiating and suspensions are
inconsistent. For example, why did Pronger get suspended for two games
during the playoffs, instead of the 2/3 games for each infraction during
the regular season? I have possible explanations. Playoff games are not
one game, but many games. But the fact is if a player is hurt as a
result of these transgression the time he spend rehabbing does not
change. Thus, Pronger should have had the book thrown at him and he didn't.

Will the NHL review the Kim Johnsson leaping hit to which Gomez
retaliated and received a penalty. Not likely. And the part that really
pisses me off is Johnsson has a concussion history and should a player
nail him to the boards (legally) and he crumples like a cheap suitcase
the hitter will likely come under the wrath of Colie. So Johnsson
essentially gets a free pass to do jump at players and receive nothing
and any player that farts in his direction will be suspended. The NHL is
inconsistent with its officiating and it is inconsistent with its
sentencing. Players like Avery and Hollweg are warned and watched
through different lenses. Avery and Hollweg do anything remotely close
to an infraction will have the book thrown at them.

Yes, Renney is a robot (I think). But given the landscape what is he to
do? Have you read McCown's "The 100 Greatest Hockey Arguments"? It
should be required reading for all fans.

-Doug

Bender wrote:
> On Dec 20, 9:18 pm, Doug Thompson wrote:
>> OK. I guess.
>
> I think he was trying to say that Renney had the opportunity to stick
> up for his team by getting a whole lot angrier, fines or suspensions
> be damned.
>
> Robots are instructed not to attack humans, though. I think it's the
> first law.
>
> Robocop is the only cyborg to ever overcome its programming, and
> Renney-bot is sure no Robocop.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:11 pm
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Doug Thompson wrote:
> Thanks. I understood. I don't agree.
>
> If Renney had to fling sticks and water bottles on the ice each time an
> official screwed things up it would be happening each game. The truth is
> Burns elbowed Prucha in the head. The NHL and its officials are supposed
> to be protecting the head. Now, if this is so will Colie suspend Burns?
> I think he should, but I think he won't.
>

In an interview after the game Shanahan said he agreed with the no call.

Bob
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:11 pm
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:33 pm
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What did you expect Shanahan to do? Complain, get fined? Shanahan is
justifiably diplomatic. The real live play showed an elbow to the head;
the slow motion play showed an elbow to the head. The officials screwed
it up. Nothing new.

-Doug



Bob Levine wrote:
> Doug Thompson wrote:
>> Thanks. I understood. I don't agree.
>>
>> If Renney had to fling sticks and water bottles on the ice each time
>> an official screwed things up it would be happening each game. The
>> truth is Burns elbowed Prucha in the head. The NHL and its officials
>> are supposed to be protecting the head. Now, if this is so will Colie
>> suspend Burns? I think he should, but I think he won't.
>>
>
> In an interview after the game Shanahan said he agreed with the no call.
>
> Bob
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:33 pm
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Doug Thompson wrote:
> What did you expect Shanahan to do? Complain, get fined? Shanahan is
> justifiably diplomatic. The real live play showed an elbow to the head;
> the slow motion play showed an elbow to the head. The officials screwed
> it up. Nothing new.

I'll take your word for it...I didn't see the play.

Bob
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:33 pm
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Thanks. I knew you would come around. Now if one can convince R... to
become a democrat!

-Doug


Bob Levine wrote:
> Doug Thompson wrote:
>> What did you expect Shanahan to do? Complain, get fined? Shanahan is
>> justifiably diplomatic. The real live play showed an elbow to the
>> head; the slow motion play showed an elbow to the head. The officials
>> screwed it up. Nothing new.
>
> I'll take your word for it...I didn't see the play.
>
> Bob
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:33 pm
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:32:26 GMT, Doug Thompson
wrote:

>Thanks. I knew you would come around. Now if one can convince R... to
>become a democrat!
>
>-Doug


Who, me? I've been called a screaming liberal in the past...I've never
felt bound to a party...I just vote for whoever I think would do the
best job of running the country.

I am now a registered republican, and I feel dirty. And not in the
good way.


>
>
>Bob Levine wrote:
>> Doug Thompson wrote:
>>> What did you expect Shanahan to do? Complain, get fined? Shanahan is
>>> justifiably diplomatic. The real live play showed an elbow to the
>>> head; the slow motion play showed an elbow to the head. The officials
>>> screwed it up. Nothing new.
>>
>> I'll take your word for it...I didn't see the play.
>>
>> Bob

peace,

Rog
http://republicanforaday.com/
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