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racerx66 DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:

> T-bonehead was effing horrible, Buf should have scored at least a half
> dozen, rebounds galore, T-bo flopping around or just plain frozen in
> place, geez that was ugly

thibault was serviceable-- a backup goalie. he definately let up some
rebounds, but some of those were quality saves on good scoring chances.
in some instances 3 or more consecutive saves before a goal was
scored. the D either needs to clear people from the front of the net
or clear the puck off the rebound. how many point blank chances can
you give up and expect the goalie to bail you out?

0-for-6 on the PP including the lengthy 5-on-3 and a 4:00 double major.
zero goals. PP cost us the san jose game too.
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supermario_66_no1 DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote in news:1163816374.413839.104810
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> making all the same mistakes-- not clearing the front of the net. not
> shooting the puck. taking bad penalties. defensive lapses.
>
> the PP is killing this team. 1:30 with a 2-man advantage and NO
> scoring chances.
>
>

That was ridiculous. They seem to enjoy moving the puck on the PP
WAAAAYYYYY too much.

Although a few things HAVE changed since last year... I like Gonchar
(for) now, and I actually feel sympathy for T-Bo.
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"Stalker" <stalker RemoveThis @yer.window> wrote in message
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> supermario_66_no1 RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote in news:1163816374.413839.104810
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>
>> making all the same mistakes-- not clearing the front of the net. not
>> shooting the puck. taking bad penalties. defensive lapses.
>>
>> the PP is killing this team. 1:30 with a 2-man advantage and NO
>> scoring chances.
>>
>>
>
> That was ridiculous. They seem to enjoy moving the puck on the PP
> WAAAAYYYYY too much.
>
> Although a few things HAVE changed since last year... I like Gonchar
> (for) now, and I actually feel sympathy for T-Bo.

Would you like Tanabe?
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In news:1163834578.986192.270140@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,
racerx66.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com <racerx66.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> typed:
> On Nov 17, 6:19 pm, supermario_66_....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
>> making all the same mistakes-- not clearing the front of the net.
>> not shooting the puck. taking bad penalties. defensive lapses.
>>
>> the PP is killing this team. 1:30 with a 2-man advantage and NO
>> scoring chances.
>
> T-bonehead was effing horrible, Buf should have scored at least a half
> dozen,

if they "should have" scored 6, and they didn't, doesn't that mean he
must've been pretty decent?

> rebounds galore, T-bo flopping around or just plain frozen in
> place, geez that was ugly
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« LJ wrote:
> Stalker <stalker RemoveThis @yer.window> posted:

> > Any thoughts? Anyone?
>
>
> I've noticed that a bunch of shots are way off, so no chance of a rebound.
> Plus, I don't like seeing Malkin used in front of the net. His passing &
> puck handling are too damn good! Having him looking for rebounds is a
> waste...that's Recchi & LeClair's job.

i agree about malkin in front of the net. i've noticed that crosby and
malkin both like that spot along the right boards and *sometimes* they
almost nuetralize each other.

army would be the obvious choice to get his nose dirty in front of the
net. thorburn maybe has earned a look at this role. and staal has had
a number of his goals this season on rebounds from about 2-3 feet from
the net. they kept him up from JR give the guy some ice time!
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supermario_66_no1.DeleteThis@yahoo.com posted:

> the PP is killing this team

Unacceptable! They should be in the top 5 on the PP!
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> supermario_66_no1.RemoveThis@yahoo.com posted:
>
>> the PP is killing this team
>
> Unacceptable! They should be in the top 5 on the PP!

Why do you think that? A successful power play involves more than just
throwing out a few 1st and 2nd year phenoms.
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> "« LJ" <LSJR71 DeleteThis @gmail.NOcom> wrote in message
> news:Xns987F803095244LJ11@DrummerWorld.com...
>> supermario_66_no1 DeleteThis @yahoo.com posted:
>>
>>> the PP is killing this team
>>
>> Unacceptable! They should be in the top 5 on the PP!
>
> Why do you think that? A successful power play involves more than just
> throwing out a few 1st and 2nd year phenoms.
>
>
>

I agree with that. They should be a way higher ranked PP. How do ya
figure that top PP line is 'throwing out' a few phenoms? 1st year, 2nd
year or 83rd year... it doesn't matter. When you have Crosby, Malkin,
Whitney and Gonchar as your top PP line AND getting the lion's share OF the
PP time, it's a notable offensive force who is notably under-achieving

So the logical counter to your argument is this: If these four guys can
post large numbers at even strength, why in the FUCK can they not do the
same when up a man? Their time spent in the league isn't even a part of
the argument.

They spend way too much time passing and looking for the perfect goal
instead of shooting the f'n puck on net (Gonchar excluded.... he's been
shooting like a marine sniper on meth... but no one wants to pick up the
sweet rebounds he creates!). It seems to me that that's the glaring
weakness on the PP. They seem to set up well, move well.... just dont
shoot enough (if at all).

Any thoughts? Anyone?
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Stalker <stalker DeleteThis @yer.window> posted:

> So the logical counter to your argument is this: If these four guys can
> post large numbers at even strength, why in the FUCK can they not do the
> same when up a man? Their time spent in the league isn't even a part of
> the argument.

Exactly.

> They spend way too much time passing and looking for the perfect goal
> instead of shooting the f'n puck on net (Gonchar excluded.... he's been
> shooting like a marine sniper on meth... but no one wants to pick up the
> sweet rebounds he creates!). It seems to me that that's the glaring
> weakness on the PP. They seem to set up well, move well.... just dont
> shoot enough (if at all).
>
> Any thoughts? Anyone?


I've noticed that a bunch of shots are way off, so no chance of a rebound.
Plus, I don't like seeing Malkin used in front of the net. His passing &
puck handling are too damn good! Having him looking for rebounds is a
waste...that's Recchi & LeClair's job.
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"Stalker" <stalker.TakeThisOut@yer.window> wrote in message
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> They spend way too much time passing and looking for the perfect goal
> instead of shooting the f'n puck on net (Gonchar excluded.... he's been
> shooting like a marine sniper on meth... but no one wants to pick up the
> sweet rebounds he creates!). It seems to me that that's the glaring
> weakness on the PP. They seem to set up well, move well.... just dont
> shoot enough (if at all).
>
> Any thoughts? Anyone?

You about covered my thoughts.....very disappointing right now.
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"« LJ" <LSJR71.DeleteThis@gmail.NOcom> wrote in
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> Stalker <stalker.DeleteThis@yer.window> posted:
>
>> So the logical counter to your argument is this: If these four guys
>> can post large numbers at even strength, why in the FUCK can they not
>> do the same when up a man? Their time spent in the league isn't even
>> a part of the argument.
>
> Exactly.
>
>> They spend way too much time passing and looking for the perfect goal
>> instead of shooting the f'n puck on net (Gonchar excluded.... he's
>> been shooting like a marine sniper on meth... but no one wants to
>> pick up the sweet rebounds he creates!). It seems to me that that's
>> the glaring weakness on the PP. They seem to set up well, move
>> well.... just dont shoot enough (if at all).
>>
>> Any thoughts? Anyone?
>
>
> I've noticed that a bunch of shots are way off, so no chance of a
> rebound. Plus, I don't like seeing Malkin used in front of the net.
> His passing & puck handling are too damn good! Having him looking for
> rebounds is a waste...that's Recchi & LeClair's job.

There's a thought. Try LeClair on the left side with Crosby and Malkin?
Maybe his fat ass can be useful for SOMETHING! :p
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"« LJ" <LSJR71.DeleteThis@gmail.NOcom> wrote in
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> Stalker <stalker.DeleteThis@yer.window> posted:
>

>
>
> I've noticed that a bunch of shots are way off, so no chance of a
> rebound. Plus, I don't like seeing Malkin used in front of the net.
> His passing & puck handling are too damn good! Having him looking for
> rebounds is a waste...that's Recchi & LeClair's job.

Can never be 100% from the point, but Gonchar really has been outstanding
at putting a fair share of laser-shots low on the net. Unfortunatley,
anyone with a penguin on their chest that might be in front of the GT is
thinking about their next bong hit, or something.
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Stalker <stalker.RemoveThis@yer.window> posted:

> There's a thought. Try LeClair on the left side with Crosby and Malkin?
> Maybe his fat ass can be useful for SOMETHING! :p

I was referring to the PP only! Last night Malkin was placed in front of
the net and didn't touch the puck.
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