mark beLL

"owl" <churchsl.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Yea, the big L on mark-O. If he'd simply stolen a woman's purse and
> resisted arrest while his buddies tried to help with the cover-up, he
> could have played 30 more games in the NHL.
>
> http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/469225
>
> And of course, since there's no conviction, Gary Bettman won't have to
> make an example of anyone (else).


A vehicular hit and run with a DUI. And a kid stealing a purse to get the
cell phone pix he should have never posed for in the first place. (that was
the initial report) Oh yeah I completely see that.
 >> Stay informed about: mark beLL 

"owl" <churchsl.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 8, 3:59 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe....RemoveThis@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> "owl" <churc....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:907059d5-ab2e-4d04-91f6-0487682b5a0d@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Yea, the big L on mark-O. If he'd simply stolen a woman's purse and
> > resisted arrest while his buddies tried to help with the cover-up, he
> > could have played 30 more games in the NHL.
>
> >http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/469225
>
> > And of course, since there's no conviction, Gary Bettman won't have to
> > make an example of anyone (else).
>
> A vehicular hit and run with a DUI. And a kid stealing a purse to get the
> cell phone pix he should have never posed for in the first place. (that
> was
> the initial report) Oh yeah I completely see that.

What cell phone pix? In yer dreams - the deal was he it was hell
night for the fraternity, and when he got caught he tried to say the
purse belonged to his (fictitious) girlfriend. Reads like you mashed
the Tlusty cellphone scandal in with the Habs Invasion of the Purse
Snatchers. http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=229398

Like I said- that was the initial report going around- c'mon you Loaf fans
no all about a player with compromising pix on the net. As for what you are
saying- get a grip. A stolen purse against a DUI leaving the scene of the
accident- where the guy was hurt. His head. Sheesh, get a grip. Both acts
are despicable- but somehow I see the drunk kid lifting a purse as a much
lesser offense in the grand scheme of things. Quit acting like Bell was
raped and O'Byrne was treated as the better. Different deeds.
 >> Stay informed about: mark beLL 

On Aug 8, 9:36 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe....RemoveThis@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> "owl" <churc....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0685ff74-63c5-4690-a6cd-a40de6a5c299@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 8, 3:59 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe....RemoveThis@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "owl" <churc....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:907059d5-ab2e-4d04-91f6-0487682b5a0d@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com....
>
> > > Yea, the big L on mark-O. If he'd simply stolen a woman's purse and
> > > resisted arrest while his buddies tried to help with the cover-up, he
> > > could have played 30 more games in the NHL.
>
> > >http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/469225
>
> > > And of course, since there's no conviction, Gary Bettman won't have to
> > > make an example of anyone (else).
>
> > A vehicular hit and run with a DUI. And a kid stealing a purse to get the
> > cell phone pix he should have never posed for in the first place. (that
> > was
> > the initial report) Oh yeah I completely see that.
>
> What cell phone pix?  In yer dreams - the deal was he it was hell
> night for the fraternity, and when he got caught he tried to say the
> purse belonged to his (fictitious) girlfriend.  Reads like you mashed
> the Tlusty cellphone scandal in with the Habs Invasion of the Purse
> Snatchers.http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=229398
>
> Like I said- that was the initial report going around- c'mon you Loaf fans
> no all about a player with compromising pix on the net.  As for what you are
> saying- get a grip.  A stolen purse against a DUI leaving the scene of the
> accident- where the guy was hurt. His head.  Sheesh, get a grip.  Both acts
> are despicable- but somehow I see the drunk kid lifting a purse as a much
> lesser offense in the grand scheme of things.  Quit acting like Bell was
> raped and O'Byrne was treated as the better.  Different deeds.

What a pethetic response. Quit acting like you have a clue about
either issue or the comparison.
 >> Stay informed about: mark beLL 

"owl" <churchsl RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 8, 9:36 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe... RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote:
> "owl" <churc... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0685ff74-63c5-4690-a6cd-a40de6a5c299@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 8, 3:59 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe... RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "owl" <churc... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:907059d5-ab2e-4d04-91f6-0487682b5a0d@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Yea, the big L on mark-O. If he'd simply stolen a woman's purse and
> > > resisted arrest while his buddies tried to help with the cover-up, he
> > > could have played 30 more games in the NHL.
>
> > >http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/469225
>
> > > And of course, since there's no conviction, Gary Bettman won't have to
> > > make an example of anyone (else).
>
> > A vehicular hit and run with a DUI. And a kid stealing a purse to get
> > the
> > cell phone pix he should have never posed for in the first place. (that
> > was
> > the initial report) Oh yeah I completely see that.
>
> What cell phone pix? In yer dreams - the deal was he it was hell
> night for the fraternity, and when he got caught he tried to say the
> purse belonged to his (fictitious) girlfriend. Reads like you mashed
> the Tlusty cellphone scandal in with the Habs Invasion of the Purse
> Snatchers.http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=229398
>
> Like I said- that was the initial report going around- c'mon you Loaf fans
> no all about a player with compromising pix on the net. As for what you
> are
> saying- get a grip. A stolen purse against a DUI leaving the scene of the
> accident- where the guy was hurt. His head. Sheesh, get a grip. Both acts
> are despicable- but somehow I see the drunk kid lifting a purse as a much
> lesser offense in the grand scheme of things. Quit acting like Bell was
> raped and O'Byrne was treated as the better. Different deeds.

What a pethetic response. Quit acting like you have a clue about
either issue or the comparison.

Coming from the cut and paste poster boy- I'm surprised you even have an
opinion. One injured another while driving drunk- face it. Obviously this
issue for you is only about the uni. That's pathetic. Drunk driving kills,
drunk purse snatching does not.
 >> Stay informed about: mark beLL 

On Aug 9, 5:32 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe....DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> "owl" <churc....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:833f033c-5fb3-40f5-bbff-b6beeb5383e8@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 8, 9:36 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe....DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "owl" <churc....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:0685ff74-63c5-4690-a6cd-a40de6a5c299@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> > On Aug 8, 3:59 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe....DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
> > > "owl" <churc....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:907059d5-ab2e-4d04-91f6-0487682b5a0d@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com....
>
> > > > Yea, the big L on mark-O. If he'd simply stolen a woman's purse and
> > > > resisted arrest while his buddies tried to help with the cover-up, he
> > > > could have played 30 more games in the NHL.
>
> > > >http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/469225
>
> > > > And of course, since there's no conviction, Gary Bettman won't have to
> > > > make an example of anyone (else).
>
> > > A vehicular hit and run with a DUI. And a kid stealing a purse to get
> > > the
> > > cell phone pix he should have never posed for in the first place. (that
> > > was
> > > the initial report) Oh yeah I completely see that.
>
> > What cell phone pix? In yer dreams - the deal was he it was hell
> > night for the fraternity, and when he got caught he tried to say the
> > purse belonged to his (fictitious) girlfriend. Reads like you mashed
> > the Tlusty cellphone scandal in with the Habs Invasion of the Purse
> > Snatchers.http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=229398
>
> > Like I said- that was the initial report going around- c'mon you Loaf fans
> > no all about a player with compromising pix on the net. As for what you
> > are
> > saying- get a grip. A stolen purse against a DUI leaving the scene of the
> > accident- where the guy was hurt. His head. Sheesh, get a grip. Both acts
> > are despicable- but somehow I see the drunk kid lifting a purse as a much
> > lesser offense in the grand scheme of things. Quit acting like Bell was
> > raped and O'Byrne was treated as the better. Different deeds.
>
> What a pethetic response.  Quit acting like you have a clue about
> either issue or the comparison.
>
> Coming from the cut and paste poster boy- I'm surprised you even have an
> opinion.  One injured another while driving drunk- face it.  Obviously this
> issue for you is only about the uni.  That's pathetic.  Drunk driving kills,
> drunk purse snatching does not.

Congrats on going oh-fer. You didn't know the diff, you didn't get
the facts, and you couldn't score a point unless you strawman'd the
issue. Poff.
 >> Stay informed about: mark beLL 

On Aug 10, 2:52 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe....DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> "owl" <churc....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1174a9bf-b30a-4b48-a17f-8d1014eccc14@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 9, 5:32 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe....DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "owl" <churc....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:833f033c-5fb3-40f5-bbff-b6beeb5383e8@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com....
> > On Aug 8, 9:36 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe....DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
> > > "owl" <churc....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:0685ff74-63c5-4690-a6cd-a40de6a5c299@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com....
> > > On Aug 8, 3:59 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe....DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
> > > > "owl" <churc....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:907059d5-ab2e-4d04-91f6-0487682b5a0d@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > > Yea, the big L on mark-O. If he'd simply stolen a woman's purse and
> > > > > resisted arrest while his buddies tried to help with the cover-up,
> > > > > he
> > > > > could have played 30 more games in the NHL.
>
> > > > >http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/469225
>
> > > > > And of course, since there's no conviction, Gary Bettman won't have
> > > > > to
> > > > > make an example of anyone (else).
>
> > > > A vehicular hit and run with a DUI. And a kid stealing a purse to get
> > > > the
> > > > cell phone pix he should have never posed for in the first place.
> > > > (that
> > > > was
> > > > the initial report) Oh yeah I completely see that.
>
> > > What cell phone pix? In yer dreams - the deal was he it was hell
> > > night for the fraternity, and when he got caught he tried to say the
> > > purse belonged to his (fictitious) girlfriend. Reads like you mashed
> > > the Tlusty cellphone scandal in with the Habs Invasion of the Purse
> > > Snatchers.http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=229398
>
> > > Like I said- that was the initial report going around- c'mon you Loaf
> > > fans
> > > no all about a player with compromising pix on the net. As for what you
> > > are
> > > saying- get a grip. A stolen purse against a DUI leaving the scene of
> > > the
> > > accident- where the guy was hurt. His head. Sheesh, get a grip. Both
> > > acts
> > > are despicable- but somehow I see the drunk kid lifting a purse as a
> > > much
> > > lesser offense in the grand scheme of things. Quit acting like Bell was
> > > raped and O'Byrne was treated as the better. Different deeds.
>
> > What a pethetic response. Quit acting like you have a clue about
> > either issue or the comparison.
>
> > Coming from the cut and paste poster boy- I'm surprised you even have an
> > opinion. One injured another while driving drunk- face it. Obviously this
> > issue for you is only about the uni. That's pathetic. Drunk driving kills,
> > drunk purse snatching does not.
>
> Congrats on going oh-fer.  You didn't know the diff, you didn't get
> the facts, and you couldn't score a point unless you strawman'd the
> issue.  Poff.
>
> Hey I'm not trying to cause a flame war here but really.  What exactly is
> your point?  Should O'Byrne get a suspension for being charged and then
> charges dropped?  Yes, I think so.  Conduct unbecoming a player.  I still do
> not think it is as seriuos as Bell's offense.  BTW he's kept his nose clean
> since the incident, right?
 >> Stay informed about: mark beLL 

On Aug 10, 2:52 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe....TakeThisOut@cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Hey I'm not trying to cause a flame war here but really.

Actually, that was all you were doing.

>  What exactly is your point?

That equal treatment would have had Bettman giving them the same post-
mortem for bad publicity that Bell got.

>  Should O'Byrne get a suspension for being charged and then
> charges dropped?  Yes, I think so.  Conduct unbecoming a player.  I still do
> not think it is as seriuos as Bell's offense.  BTW he's kept his nose clean
> since the incident, right?

So did Bell - In fact, it was a year and a team later. You were the
one that threw in the ficititious cell-phone excuse that belonged to
Tlusty, and you were the one that introduced the flame game with the
Loafs thing.

Is it as serious? No. But fact is, the Montreal thing made a big
line at the time, and the Bell thing was dead and buried until the
judge threw some weight into it. And yes, the point of the post was
that Bell got treated worse much much later than either of the Habs
will ever get treated.
 >> Stay informed about: mark beLL 

"owl" <churchsl.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 9, 5:32 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe....DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> "owl" <churc....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:833f033c-5fb3-40f5-bbff-b6beeb5383e8@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 8, 9:36 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe....DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "owl" <churc....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:0685ff74-63c5-4690-a6cd-a40de6a5c299@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> > On Aug 8, 3:59 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe....DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
> > > "owl" <churc....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:907059d5-ab2e-4d04-91f6-0487682b5a0d@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > Yea, the big L on mark-O. If he'd simply stolen a woman's purse and
> > > > resisted arrest while his buddies tried to help with the cover-up,
> > > > he
> > > > could have played 30 more games in the NHL.
>
> > > >http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/469225
>
> > > > And of course, since there's no conviction, Gary Bettman won't have
> > > > to
> > > > make an example of anyone (else).
>
> > > A vehicular hit and run with a DUI. And a kid stealing a purse to get
> > > the
> > > cell phone pix he should have never posed for in the first place.
> > > (that
> > > was
> > > the initial report) Oh yeah I completely see that.
>
> > What cell phone pix? In yer dreams - the deal was he it was hell
> > night for the fraternity, and when he got caught he tried to say the
> > purse belonged to his (fictitious) girlfriend. Reads like you mashed
> > the Tlusty cellphone scandal in with the Habs Invasion of the Purse
> > Snatchers.http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=229398
>
> > Like I said- that was the initial report going around- c'mon you Loaf
> > fans
> > no all about a player with compromising pix on the net. As for what you
> > are
> > saying- get a grip. A stolen purse against a DUI leaving the scene of
> > the
> > accident- where the guy was hurt. His head. Sheesh, get a grip. Both
> > acts
> > are despicable- but somehow I see the drunk kid lifting a purse as a
> > much
> > lesser offense in the grand scheme of things. Quit acting like Bell was
> > raped and O'Byrne was treated as the better. Different deeds.
>
> What a pethetic response. Quit acting like you have a clue about
> either issue or the comparison.
>
> Coming from the cut and paste poster boy- I'm surprised you even have an
> opinion. One injured another while driving drunk- face it. Obviously this
> issue for you is only about the uni. That's pathetic. Drunk driving kills,
> drunk purse snatching does not.

Congrats on going oh-fer. You didn't know the diff, you didn't get
the facts, and you couldn't score a point unless you strawman'd the
issue. Poff.

Hey I'm not trying to cause a flame war here but really. What exactly is
your point? Should O'Byrne get a suspension for being charged and then
charges dropped? Yes, I think so. Conduct unbecoming a player. I still do
not think it is as seriuos as Bell's offense. BTW he's kept his nose clean
since the incident, right?
 >> Stay informed about: mark beLL 

On Aug 10, 5:54 pm, "Ken" <ken.hoofhear....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

> Now tell me you didn't just laugh a little.

Nope.
 >> Stay informed about: mark beLL 

"owl" <churchsl DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 10, 2:52 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe... DeleteThis @cogeco.ca> wrote:

>> Hey I'm not trying to cause a flame war here but really.

>Actually, that was all you were doing.

>> What exactly is your point?

>That equal treatment would have had Bettman giving them the same post-
>mortem for bad publicity that Bell got.

>> Should O'Byrne get a suspension for being charged and then
>> charges dropped? Yes, I think so. Conduct unbecoming a player. I still do
>> not think it is as seriuos as Bell's offense. BTW he's kept his nose
>> clean
>> since the incident, right?

>So did Bell - In fact, it was a year and a team later. You were the
>one that threw in the ficititious cell-phone excuse that belonged to
>Tlusty, and you were the one that introduced the flame game with the
>Loafs thing.

>Is it as serious? No. But fact is, the Montreal thing made a big
>line at the time, and the Bell thing was dead and buried until the
>judge threw some weight into it. And yes, the point of the post was
>that Bell got treated worse much much later than either of the Habs
>will ever get treated.

Your point is lost Owl. It isn't a Battman thing. Bell got it much worse
because he got convicted, and he has priors. If O'Byrne was going to do
jail time, then the league would do things differently. You want a better
comparable, look up Ken Daneyko's record, or Kevin Lowe's jail stint. When
the charges get dropped, it ceases to be an employer's issue.
 >> Stay informed about: mark beLL 

"owl" <churchsl.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 10, 5:54 pm, "Ken" <ken.hoofhear....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> Now tell me you didn't just laugh a little.

>mmmmmNope.

Fixed that for you.
 >> Stay informed about: mark beLL 

On Aug 10, 8:01 pm, "Ken" <ken.hoofhear... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> "owl" <churc... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1d090974-b57e-44e8-bdec-4a25664266ee@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 10, 2:52 pm, "finsfan" <hmatthe... RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Hey I'm not trying to cause a flame war here but really.
> >Actually, that was all you were doing.
> >> What exactly is your point?
> >That equal treatment would have had Bettman giving them the same post-
> >mortem for bad publicity that Bell got.
> >> Should O'Byrne get a suspension for being charged and then
> >> charges dropped? Yes, I think so. Conduct unbecoming a player. I still do
> >> not think it is as seriuos as Bell's offense. BTW he's kept his nose
> >> clean
> >> since the incident, right?
> >So did Bell - In fact, it was a year and a team later.  You were the
> >one that threw in the ficititious cell-phone excuse that belonged to
> >Tlusty, and you were the one that introduced the flame game with the
> >Loafs thing.
> >Is it as serious?  No.  But fact is, the Montreal thing made a big
> >line at the time, and the Bell thing was dead and buried until the
> >judge threw some weight into it.  And yes, the point of the post was
> >that Bell got treated worse much much later than either of the Habs
> >will ever get treated.
>
> Your point is lost Owl.  It isn't a Battman thing.  Bell got it much worse
> because he got convicted, and he has priors.  If O'Byrne was going to do
> jail time, then the league would do things differently.  You want a better
> comparable, look up Ken Daneyko's record, or Kevin Lowe's jail stint.  When
> the charges get dropped, it ceases to be an employer's issue.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yeah, you can't punish a guy for something if the charges are
dropped. There is a thing called being innocent. And then what, the
NHL is supposed to go through the police work in each case and decide
for themselves? Charges are dropped, you're free to go.
 >> Stay informed about: mark beLL 

finsfan wrote:

> ...you Loaf fans...
..
..
..
> Hey I'm not trying to cause a flame war here but really.

Your attempt at not starting a flame war failed epically.
 >> Stay informed about: mark beLL