That was nice

Bender wrote:
> Not sure I agree with the whole Graves thing, but all in all it was a
> nice ceremony.
>
> Mark Messier looks like he could rip a phone book in half in between
> crying spurts. That guy actually upped his physical training after
> retirement.

I thought all he had to do was stare at it and it tore iteslf up.
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"Bender" wrote in message

> Not sure I agree with the whole Graves thing, but all in all it was a
> nice ceremony.

It was worth it just to see Graves face. He looked like he was going to pass
out. I think everybody knows the organization loves to milk these things.
They love to play on the dumb sentiments of the fans that'll eat it up.
Graves is beloved but that isn't something that merits a jersey retirement.
There are so many players in Rangers history that should get their jersey's
retired if Graves deserves it. Well, whatever. That foursome is a very
beloved group


> Mark Messier looks like he could rip a phone book in half in between
> crying spurts. That guy actually upped his physical training after
> retirement.

Just in case he gets the call. One more run? *stare*

PS- is there anybody better to listen to than Richter making wise cracks
throughout a cermeony. It's gold.
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On Jan 25, 1:02 am, Keith Keller <kkeller-use... DeleteThis @wombat.san-
francisco.ca.us> wrote:
> I don't think Graves deserves to have his number retired, though I agree
> on all counts that he's a great guy and a good player. I disagree with
> Richter--he was a career Ranger, was almost always a great goalie, often
> carried the team, often was the only guy who showed up for games when
> the skaters mailed it in, *and* is a great guy, *and* had his career cut
> short when he could conceivably still be playing now (it'd be a stretch,
> but if Hasek can do it...).

Yeah. I softened my opinion a bit when it dawned on me that these
jersey retirements aren't necessarily analogous to being in the hall
of fame, and it's more about what that particular player meant to his
team/city than the numbers he put up.

Good for Graves. They had a lot of material to work with when it came
to Leetch, but when it comes to Graves they're pretty much going to
have to focus on the 1994 regular season.

Anyway, when is Leetch eligible for the Hall of Fame?
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SoCal Ranger wrote:
> On Fri 25 Jan 2008 12:02:29a Keith Keller posted:
>
>> Who's next after Graves? Kovalev? MacTavish? Wells?
>>
>
> Cullen? Poti?
>

Malik!
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On Jan 25, 10:52 am, SoCal Ranger wrote:
> On Fri 25 Jan 2008 12:02:29a Keith Keller posted:
>
> > Who's next after Graves?  Kovalev?  MacTavish?  Wells?
>
> Cullen? Poti?

P0ti definitely ... no one should have to wear a number associated
with him ever ...
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On 2008-01-25, Bender wrote:
>
> Yeah. I softened my opinion a bit when it dawned on me that these
> jersey retirements aren't necessarily analogous to being in the hall
> of fame, and it's more about what that particular player meant to his
> team/city than the numbers he put up.

O-kay...so when will Beck's number be retired? Or even JD (the real
one)? Those guys meant a lot to Rangers fans, but hey, no Cup, no
retirement ceremony?

> Anyway, when is Leetch eligible for the Hall of Fame?

Right after Cullen, IIRC.

--keith

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