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smacdo

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:45 pm
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I could go ahead and break down the season so far, the performance of the
players and the coaches, the goalies and everything...but frankly, I'm not
wasting my time on this team. So here is the quick and dirty...

1) The Bruins are continuing to be poorly managed. It is clear that
neither O'Connell nor Chiarelli know how to build a winning team in the
post-lockout NHL. Chiarelli has been so painfully luke warm in his moves
so far...and none of them have followed any sort of plan or direction at
all.

2) As a result of point number one, the reality is the Bruins are just not
talented enough to compete night in and night out in the NHL. They have
the look of a recent expansion team right now. There hasn't been one
single move in the last year that brought in a legitimate very good NHL
player.

3) Chiarelli has made a habit of rearranging the deck chairs on the
Titanic. He hasn't shown any semblance of knowing what he has or needs on
the lineup.

4) We have a ridiculous surplus of pedestrian to decent goalies.

5) Julien may be a better coach than Lewis, but with the talent given to
him its not going to matter.

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Bog53

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:45 am
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On Oct 11, 5:49 pm, smacdo wrote:
> I could go ahead and break down the season so far, the performance of the
> players and the coaches, the goalies and everything...but frankly, I'm not
> wasting my time on this team. So here is the quick and dirty...
>
> 1) The Bruins are continuing to be poorly managed. It is clear that
> neither O'Connell nor Chiarelli know how to build a winning team in the
> post-lockout NHL. Chiarelli has been so painfully luke warm in his moves
> so far...and none of them have followed any sort of plan or direction at
> all.
>
> 2) As a result of point number one, the reality is the Bruins are just not
> talented enough to compete night in and night out in the NHL. They have
> the look of a recent expansion team right now. There hasn't been one
> single move in the last year that brought in a legitimate very good NHL
> player.
>
> 3) Chiarelli has made a habit of rearranging the deck chairs on the
> Titanic. He hasn't shown any semblance of knowing what he has or needs on
> the lineup.
>
> 4) We have a ridiculous surplus of pedestrian to decent goalies.
>
> 5) Julien may be a better coach than Lewis, but with the talent given to
> him its not going to matter.

I must take issue with some of your points.

"but frankly, I'm not wasting my time on this team. "
I find that hard to believe. If its true, you do not fit my definition
of a fan.

"There hasn't been one single move in the last year that brought in a
legitimate
very good NHL player."
Manny Fernandez is a legit very good NHLer. But I still don't like
that trade.

" We have a ridiculous surplus of pedestrian to decent goalies."
Most hockey people consider Rask a potential All-Star goalie. I think
Thomas &
Manny are better than decent.

Have I mentioned Jurcina has played well this year?

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scullerjay

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:10 am
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smacdo wrote:
....
> 2) As a result of point number one, the reality is the Bruins are just not
> talented enough to compete night in and night out in the NHL. They have
> the look of a recent expansion team right now. There hasn't been one
> single move in the last year that brought in a legitimate very good NHL
> player.
> ...

Disagree, Fernandez and Schaefer are both improvements - I can
understand the debate/"jury still out" on Fernandez but Schaefer is/
will be a hands down improvement on offense.

Jay
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Sulking Sphynx

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:45 pm
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"smacdo" wrote in message

> 1) The Bruins are continuing to be poorly managed. It is clear that
> neither O'Connell nor Chiarelli know how to build a winning team in the
> post-lockout NHL. Chiarelli has been so painfully luke warm in his moves
> so far...and none of them have followed any sort of plan or direction at
> all.
>

Julien has imprived the communication and the attitude. That automatically
makes them worth watching this year.

> 2) As a result of point number one, the reality is the Bruins are just
> not
> talented enough to compete night in and night out in the NHL. They have
> the look of a recent expansion team right now. There hasn't been one
> single move in the last year that brought in a legitimate very good NHL
> player.

They bought in Schaefer for Donovan and Manny is much better than Toivonen.
There are a few teams in the east that did not improve. The B's can take
advantae of them - if Juien can keep them motivated.

>
> 3) Chiarelli has made a habit of rearranging the deck chairs on the
> Titanic. He hasn't shown any semblance of knowing what he has or needs on
> the lineup.
>

Yes. He has too many centers and not enough defensemen or wingers. His Manny
signing may end up with heads scratching if TT continues to be better. The
season is young and he has a few bodies to trade, even Bergeron if he can
get equal value. I got the window open for the breeze. I'm not thinking of
jumping just yet. It's too early. Mid-November is the best time to gauge
them.

> 5) Julien may be a better coach than Lewis, but with the talent given to
> him its not going to matter.
>

Disagree. Julien is commited to cutting out those "gray" areas and it seems
like he's doing a good job. That is exactly what Sully and Lewis lacked. The
players looked lazy under them but it was mostly indeciveness on the ice.
Certainly not a Cup contender but they will play closer to where they should
rather than under-achieve. It's Chia that has to improve. No more Jurcina
and Wideman moves pleeze.
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smacdo

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:45 pm
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Bog53 wrote in


> "but frankly, I'm not wasting my time on this team. "
> I find that hard to believe. If its true, you do not fit my definition
> of a fan.


Read the rest of the sentence for the context...

I could go ahead and break down the season so far, the performance of
the players and the coaches, the goalies and everything...but
frankly, I'm not wasting my time on this team. So here is the quick
and dirty...


Translation - I don't feel like breaking down every single aspect of this
club because I feel it would be a waste of my time...this is because I feel
I can offer up an executive summary which follows... ;)
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Bog53

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:53 am
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On Oct 12, 6:15 pm, smacdo wrote:
> Bog53 wrote innews:1192196704.170672.262910@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > "but frankly, I'm not wasting my time on this team. "
> > I find that hard to believe. If its true, you do not fit my definition
> > of a fan.
>
> Read the rest of the sentence for the context...
>
> I could go ahead and break down the season so far, the performance of
> the players and the coaches, the goalies and everything...but
> frankly, I'm not wasting my time on this team. So here is the quick
> and dirty...
>
> Translation - I don't feel like breaking down every single aspect of this
> club because I feel it would be a waste of my time...this is because I feel
> I can offer up an executive summary which follows... ;)


Try to keep your sentences simpler. Remember you're dealing with a
partially
Polish audience here.
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Bitter Beezy

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:31 am
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>
>> 5) Julien may be a better coach than Lewis, but with the talent given to
>> him its not going to matter.
>>
>
>Disagree. Julien is commited to cutting out those "gray" areas and it seems
>like he's doing a good job. That is exactly what Sully and Lewis lacked. The
>players looked lazy under them but it was mostly indeciveness on the ice.
>Certainly not a Cup contender but they will play closer to where they should
>rather than under-achieve. It's Chia that has to improve. No more Jurcina
>and Wideman moves pleeze.

If Lewis were coaching we'd see Bochenski on the ice for 15 mins. He's
playing Lucic (who I like more every day and hope he sticks around)
and Krejci (another player who would be on the bench under Lewis).
Their transition game is much better (now average vs. pathetic).

A trade is necessary - too bad Bochenski's doing his Keith Tkachuk
immitation since he'd be reasonably good packagable bait.
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Rich Z

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:20 pm
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Sulking Sphynx wrote:
> "smacdo" wrote in message
>
>> 1) The Bruins are continuing to be poorly managed. It is clear that
>> neither O'Connell nor Chiarelli know how to build a winning team in the
>> post-lockout NHL. Chiarelli has been so painfully luke warm in his moves
>> so far...and none of them have followed any sort of plan or direction at
>> all.
>>
>
> Julien has imprived the communication and the attitude. That automatically
> makes them worth watching this year.
>
>> 2) As a result of point number one, the reality is the Bruins are just
>> not
>> talented enough to compete night in and night out in the NHL. They have
>> the look of a recent expansion team right now. There hasn't been one
>> single move in the last year that brought in a legitimate very good NHL
>> player.
>
> They bought in Schaefer for Donovan and Manny is much better than Toivonen.
> There are a few teams in the east that did not improve. The B's can take
> advantae of them - if Juien can keep them motivated.
>
>> 3) Chiarelli has made a habit of rearranging the deck chairs on the
>> Titanic. He hasn't shown any semblance of knowing what he has or needs on
>> the lineup.
>>
>
> Yes. He has too many centers and not enough defensemen or wingers. His Manny
> signing may end up with heads scratching if TT continues to be better. The
> season is young and he has a few bodies to trade, even Bergeron if he can
> get equal value. I got the window open for the breeze. I'm not thinking of
> jumping just yet. It's too early. Mid-November is the best time to gauge
> them.
>
>> 5) Julien may be a better coach than Lewis, but with the talent given to
>> him its not going to matter.
>>
>
> Disagree. Julien is commited to cutting out those "gray" areas and it seems
> like he's doing a good job. That is exactly what Sully and Lewis lacked. The
> players looked lazy under them but it was mostly indeciveness on the ice.
> Certainly not a Cup contender but they will play closer to where they should
> rather than under-achieve. It's Chia that has to improve. No more Jurcina
> and Wideman moves pleeze.
>
>
Just my 2 cents on Jurcina....he was terrible on the Bruins last year.
If this can be attributed to Lewis' coaching, I cant say, but he was
just plain bad, made poor decisions on the ice, unforced turnovers, etc.
In the same vein, Boyes was awful last year too...he couldn't hit the
open net. I cant blame that on Lewis' coaching either. Sometimes a
change of scenery helps the player, but I cant kill the Bruins for
letting either of them go.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:36 pm
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>Its hard to say Jurcina was terrible last year, he only played about 5
>minutes a game.
>Was he worse than Alberts or Mara? They got 20 minutes a night.

Globe column this morning says Mara on the block in NY.
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