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foamy

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:26 am
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So the house defeats the bailout the other day, the senate approves
a bailout tonight..........

What does that mean with respect to a bailout ?

Jim

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:26 am
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foamy wrote:
> So the house defeats the bailout the other day, the senate approves
> a bailout tonight..........
>
> What does that mean with respect to a bailout ?
>
> Jim

The house votes on Friday, I believe. It's an amended deal, not the same
one that was killed.

Scott

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:28 am
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In article <gc1sif$f50$1@aioe.org>, Scotty <Lah.TakeThisOut@de.da> wrote:
>foamy wrote:
>> So the house defeats the bailout the other day, the senate approves
>> a bailout tonight..........
>>
>> What does that mean with respect to a bailout ?
>>
>> Jim
>
>The house votes on Friday, I believe. It's an amended deal, not the same
>one that was killed.

But does the senate vote have any effect in law ? If the house rejects it,
what happens ?

Jim
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:16 am
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Scotty wrote:

> foamy wrote:
>> So the house defeats the bailout the other day, the senate approves
>> a bailout tonight..........
>>
>> What does that mean with respect to a bailout ?
>>
>> Jim
>
> The house votes on Friday, I believe. It's an amended deal, not the same
> one that was killed.
>
> Scott

It has to be rewritten so that everyone gets a new heated pool at their
summer homes.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:17 am
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On 2008-10-02, foamy <bombelly.TakeThisOut@sulet.ten> wrote:
> In article <gc1sif$f50$1@aioe.org>, Scotty <Lah.TakeThisOut@de.da> wrote:
>>foamy wrote:
>>> So the house defeats the bailout the other day, the senate approves
>>> a bailout tonight..........
>>>
>>> What does that mean with respect to a bailout ?
>>
>>The house votes on Friday, I believe. It's an amended deal, not the same
>>one that was killed.
>
> But does the senate vote have any effect in law ? If the house rejects it,
> what happens ?

Nothing. Both houses must approve, then the President must sign or not
veto, in order to become law.

Theoretically, if the House rejects the amended bill, the Senate can try
to pass another amended bill for the House to vote on. But eventually
both houses must approve the same version of a bill in order for it to
be sent to the President for signature. I'm not sure if signing in
crayon counts as a legal binding signature or not.

--keith


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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:25 pm
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In article <cqffr5xpu1.ln2.DeleteThis@goaway.wombat.
san-francisco.ca.us>, Keith Keller <kkeller-
usenet.DeleteThis@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:

>> But does the senate vote have any effect in law ? If the house rejects it,
>> what happens ?
>
>Nothing. Both houses must approve, then the President must sign or not
>veto, in order to become law.
>
>Theoretically, if the House rejects the amended bill, the Senate can try
>to pass another amended bill for the House to vote on. But eventually
>both houses must approve the same version of a bill in order for it to
>be sent to the President for signature. I'm not sure if signing in
>crayon counts as a legal binding signature or not.

Heh, thanks keith. Now I gets it.

Jim
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:25 pm
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On 2008-10-02, foamy <bombelly RemoveThis @sulet.ten> wrote:
> In article <cqffr5xpu1.ln2 RemoveThis @goaway.wombat.
> san-francisco.ca.us>, Keith Keller <kkeller-
> usenet RemoveThis @wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
>>
>>Nothing. Both houses must approve, then the President must sign or not
>>veto, in order to become law.
>>
>>Theoretically, if the House rejects the amended bill, the Senate can try
>>to pass another amended bill for the House to vote on. But eventually
>>both houses must approve the same version of a bill in order for it to
>>be sent to the President for signature. I'm not sure if signing in
>>crayon counts as a legal binding signature or not.
>
> Heh, thanks keith. Now I gets it.

Do you have a crayon? You could be our next President! :)

--keith

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:25 pm
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In article <mmnfr5x1s3.ln2.RemoveThis@goaway.wombat.
san-francisco.ca.us>, Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet
@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:

>> Heh, thanks keith. Now I gets it.
>
>Do you have a crayon? You could be our next President! :)


Hmmm. Does a pres have the ability to oh, let's say to er just for
example fire the commish of a sports league ?

Jim
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:25 pm
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On 2008-10-02, foamy <bombelly DeleteThis @sulet.ten> wrote:
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> Hmmm. Does a pres have the ability to oh, let's say to er just for
> example fire the commish of a sports league ?

Only leagues of importance in the US, like the NFL or the US Basket
Weaving League. Unimportant leagues are expected to fold or move to
France.

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